vg|2004 Reisinger,1st Semi-Final,B,1,28,Brachman NPC,4,Opponent,0| rs|3SE+1,3NN-6,3HN+2,3HS+1,4SS-1,3SS-1,5CN+1,6CN=,5HEx-3,6SS-1,3SN-1,4DW=,4HS+1,4HS+1,4HW+1,4HW+1,5HE=,6DSx-1,3SS-2,1HS+1,3DN=,3DNx=,2CWx-1,4SS=,4HE-1,4HE=,6SW-2,5SW=,3NS+1,3NS+1,2SWx-2,3NS+1,4HWx-1,3SN-1,3NN+1,3NS+1,3DN=,3CW-1,3NN=,4NN+1,3HE+1,4HE=,4SE+1,4SE=,7CSx-1,6CS=,3SE=,3SE=,5HWx-3,4SS-3,5CE-2,3NE+2,,,,| pn|Greco,Rubin,Hampson,Ekeblad,South,West,North,East|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3S6HA52DK52CKQ9876,SQT84HKQJDQ74CAT5,SK7H876DAT986CJ32,SAJ9532HT943DJ3C4|sv|o|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: sorry, wrong boards :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|3S|nt|kareno: This is a revival of an old partnership, Mark Feldman and Bart Bramley. Bart has been playing with Sidney Lazard of late.|pg|| nt|roghog: 4@s on a finesse here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|kareno: Feldman's nickname is Flash, mainly because he is noted for slow play. When we've asked him what he's thinking about, his reply has always been, "I'm thinking about every board I ...|pg|| nt|kareno: ever played."|pg|| nt|poohbear: could be a candidate for the worlds slowest pair. Though Bart would have to really turn it off to pass Barnet Shenkin one of Marks other partners:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: EW are on the Lazard team with Sidney Lazard, William Pollack and Mark Cohen as their teammates|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|macsek: max egy órát tudok|pg|| nt|poohbear: 9 easy tricks here|pg|| pc|h3|nt|vugraph7: they finished yesterday in 25th place|pg|| nt|vugraph7: sorry, 25/26|pg|| nt|poohbear: last qualifying spot|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| nt|vugraph7: eric's thinking|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|s5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S542HQT82DAJ92CK7,SKQ973HK3DK5CQJT9,SATHAJ75D843CA643,SJ86H964DQT76C852|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roghog: another finessey game that makes|pg|| mb|d|nt|roghog: 4@h by NS, I mean|pg|| nt|kareno: 4@h is a possible make with diamond guess, etc., but doubt they'll get there.|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|roghog: yes, especially at this scoring|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: I would always double 1@s for takeout with the north hand.. who else would?|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: I would|pg|| pc|s6|nt|roghog: I definitely would, Karen|pg|| nt|poohbear: only cause I have 4h|pg|| nt|reisig: not the 3 aces?|pg|| nt|poohbear: with 4-4 in the minors I would not|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|poohbear: Hampson really soft pedalled his hand|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| nt|kareno: There's actually no guess in diamonds with east having passed the opening bid. However, with KQx of diamonds it's possible to duck and convince declarer to play the nine (or to ...|pg|| nt|kareno: rise with KTx and hope he misguesses).|pg|| nt|ritong 1: we could have an interesting @d handling here|pg|| pc|c3|nt|kareno: It is a suit with many possible plays by declarer and defense.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|kareno: But with east passing over 1@s I think it plays automatically even if Bramley rises with the queen on the first play.|pg|| nt|ritong 1: for the art:)|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, our kibitzers should learn to play the Queen in such a situation to make it harder for declarer.|pg|| nt|ritong 1: true.|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| nt|reisig: except when partner has singleton King!|pg|| nt|kareno: And in the expert game, play low with KQx and make declarer guess to play the jack :-)|pg|| nt|kareno: Now, Richie, don't pour water on my theories :-)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 2 more rounds after this one|pg|| nt|roghog: 2 overtricks now|pg|| nt|ritong 1: richie does not pour water|pg|| nt|reisig: That wasn't water dear:))|pg|| nt|ritong 1: he pours icecubes|pg|| nt|kareno: OWIE!!|pg|| nt|kareno: Anyway, that suit combination is a much more interesting one than most.|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|nt|reisig: PLay the card known to dcl|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ritong 1: yes, an other BIG tip|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SAJ9753HAT4DQ43CT,SQ62HJ98DAK8C7432,SK4HKQ75D972CKJ95,ST8H632DJT65CAQ86|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 2 spades is the max on this board unless South takes a strange view in the spade suit|pg|| nt|roghog: difficult to stay so low|pg|| nt|ritong: delicate carding after the @d lead, though|pg|| nt|poohbear: notice that North only raised to 3 spades with his 12 count|pg|| nt|poohbear: 2 reasons . 1 they open very light and 2 aceless|pg|| mb|4S|nt|kareno: They open quite light in their style.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: Steve Weinstein has come over to kibitz|pg|| nt|ritong: say @d three times...|pg|| pc|dA|nt|poohbear: If horths minors were reversed this decision would be correct|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Hampson, as he's putting down dummy: I did not want the slow pass|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|kareno: With mirrors three can be made.|pg|| nt|kareno: Backward finesse in spades.|pg|| nt|reisig: after they take 4 tricks?|pg|| nt|poohbear: she said 3 rich:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: 4 can be made if no club shift here|pg|| nt|reisig: You have to be very tall to make it|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes. With mirrors :) Leading the @s Jack through west.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Gerstman was getting more info about the light openings... what hand types/strengths will pass 1n, etc etc.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: now he's just thinking.|pg|| nt|ritong: crossroads.|pg|| nt|ritong: at least he did not try to cash @ds by inertia|pg|| pc|h8|nt|roghog: declarer is hoping for a trump switch, but it isnt to be|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|kareno: Now the club.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|nt|poohbear: woops|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|kareno: Okay at least eventually the club.|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S5HAQDAKJ62CAKQ64,ST7HJ7652DQT843C5,SKJ4HT4D97CJT9832,SAQ98632HK983D5C7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Hampson thinking his pard has red suits perhaps?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: can be|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: 4nt = any twosuiter|pg|| nt|ritong: no?|pg|| nt|kareno: 4NT shows some two-suited hand. |pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|poohbear: Greco might have taken a chance|pg|| nt|ritong: david burn did|pg|| pc|s9|nt|poohbear: and raised|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ritong: gutsy!|pg|| nt|kareno: It's very tempting to bid six. |pg|| nt|vugraph7: Eric says 4n = any two suiter|pg|| nt|reisig: 4@s did its work|pg|| nt|juror4: byl deszcz z gradem zamiast sniegu|pg|| nt|reisig: I must admit ...I'd bid 6@c|pg|| nt|ritong: and go down after @h lead|pg|| nt|poohbear: Hampson and Greco need to do have a good last 2 boards in order to gain some momentum for tonight|pg|| nt|kareno: In France the east distribution is known as "Eau de Cologne," because of the famous brand of cologne, 4711.|pg|| nt|ritong: :-)|pg|| nt|poohbear: definitely need to do some soul searching between sessions|pg|| nt|reisig: or drinking|pg|| nt|poohbear: :))|pg|| nt|kareno: Remember this is not the day to win the event. It's a qualification day and they will be happy if they do qualify. Be sure to come back for the second session of this great ...|pg|| nt|kareno: event!!|pg|| nt|roghog: top 14 teams to qualify, I'm told|pg|| nt|kareno: How many qualified to today?|pg|| nt|poohbear: I think only 10|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 14|pg|| nt|reisig: Yes -- I heard the same...a larger number than normal|pg|| nt|poohbear: thats new|pg|| nt|kareno: We're told 14 will qualify.|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAKT97HD8543CAQ62,S2HA97432DAQJTC85,SQJ854HKQDK9CJ743,S63HJT865D762CKT9|sv|n|nt|ritong: from a reliable source|pg|| nt|poohbear: so reality is you only need avg to qualify|pg|| nt|ritong: hi susan@h|pg|| nt|kareno: When I've gotten to the Finals, it's been only 11 to qualify.|pg|| nt|poohbear: since 26 teams in the event|pg|| nt|vugraph7: hello henri|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|roghog: 5@s is the limit for NS|pg|| nt|poohbear: So reality is that team Brachman is in good shape here|pg|| nt|vugraph7: They went from 52 --> 26 ... and 14 for tomorrow (I just confirmed)|pg|| mb|4H!|an|void|mb|d|nt|roghog: thx Susan|pg|| nt|reisig: 4@h -- prob void|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 4@H = void splinter|pg|| nt|ritong: 3@h wud be single,richie?|pg|| mb|4S|nt|kareno: So, if the score posted is correct, our fine team that we've watched all day should qualify with just average tonight.|pg|| nt|poohbear: just found a good save|pg|| mb|5H|nt|reisig: There are other ways|pg|| nt|ritong: oki|pg|| nt|vugraph7: The running tally on this screen only shows a 2 board carryover for Brachman, but they were the leaders after day 1 and actually have a full 4 board carryover|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|reisig: The 4@s bid = NO SLAM|pg|| nt|poohbear: though 5spades is cold hard to get there|pg|| nt|kareno: Are they the defenders as well?|pg|| nt|roghog: -500, a good save|pg|| nt|poohbear: YES'|pg|| nt|poohbear: won last year with Brachman on the team|pg|| nt|kareno: Very impressive.|pg|| nt|poohbear: in a very exciting finish|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|reisig: 5 level choices are tough|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| nt|kareno: Once Greco passed over 5@h he was committed to passing once his partner doubled. The only hand that would bid on would be one with massive extra playing strength and that would be ...|pg|| nt|kareno: a slam try. Greco disciplined here.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Hampson should make a play that will tell his pard he has the @D king|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|poohbear: will the halftime scores be reported anywhere?:)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h5|nt|reisig: In Orlando|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|vugraph7: sorry -- dummy played a dif card than was called and I got lost|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SKQJ6HJT82DQCQJ95,S42H9DAT97642CT84,SA983HQ7654DJ8CK7,ST75HAK3DK53CA632|sv|e|nt|ritong: no problem|pg|| nt|vugraph7: down 3 though|pg|| nt|ritong: the play was not very intricated|pg|| mb|1N!|an|12-15, occasionally 4441|nt|reisig: This is a cute hand|pg|| mb|2C!|an|!S+!H or !S+!C|nt|ritong: hampson will have a suit choice to make|pg|| nt|kareno: Makes 3NT because spades and diamonds break.|pg|| nt|roghog: 3NT here, as the @s are 4-4|pg|| nt|ritong: think level is acquired|pg|| nt|reisig: 2@c ..Landy type|pg|| nt|ritong: unless he is extremely prudent|pg|| mb|2D|nt|vugraph7: sorry --- it's @S + @H or @S + @C|pg|| nt|ritong: different, then|pg|| nt|reisig: ahh|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I coudln't make out the last part of Greco's note, but Hampson uses nice suit symbols. =)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|poohbear: reason that EW can open 1nt with 4-4-4-1 is because they play a canape system. which means that they bid short suits before long suits. therefore 4-4-4-1 is a very hard hand to ...|pg|| nt|poohbear: describe|pg|| nt|ritong: midway|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|roghog: one down, thanks to the ruff|pg|| nt|poohbear: give Hampson an A for penmanship:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: last board for this afternoon --- the evening session starts at 7:30 pm (in about 2.5 hours)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| nt|poohbear: will they find the ruff?|pg|| nt|ritong: merci susan:)|pg|| nt|roghog: I'm afraid I'll be asleep in 2.5 hrs...|pg|| pc|hK|nt|reisig: yes|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dK|nt|roghog: exhausted by all this excellent bridge!!|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| nt|poohbear: bye all . cyu later:)|pg|| pc|c2|nt|reisig: bye bye|pg|| nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg|| nt|kareno: Bye for now - see you later for more great bridge|pg|| nt|roghog: g'night all from this godforsaken island :-)|pg|| nt|ritong: nite roger:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the other table is sllooooowww -- still bidding board 5. |pg|| nt|vugraph7: The other table has reached 6 @s on board 5|pg|| nt|vugraph7: with 1 round to go the Brachman team leads with 17 boards (including carryover) -- Cayne in 2nd with 16.33|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SA3HAKT9653DK76C7,SK82HQJ4DT93CQ853,SJ95H72DA854CAJ96,SQT764H8DQJ2CKT42|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|mc|11|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SJ653HQ63DA9843C7,S942HAK954DCKT832,SQT7H87DQJT72CQJ6,SAK8HJT2DK65CA954|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|vugraph7: Sorry about that. We're back --- 2 board rounds|pg|| nt|tsanders: Assume we will be with Greco/Hampson this session. They were the leaders beginning today|pg|| nt|kareno: Tomorrow we are likely to have three board rounds.|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S85H9DKQJT64CQJ85,SQT962HA4D8CT9764,SJ743H7652D973CAK,SAKHKQJT83DA52C32|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|3D|nt|kareno: By the time you reach the semifinals of the Reisinger event, there are very few 'weak' teams remaining.|pg|| mb|3S|an|GF|nt|kareno: So Hampson and Greco will be facing Murderer's Row :)|pg|| nt|tsanders: Greco/Hampson, a young pair, have developed a very fine partnership, patterned after the pair they are playing, who need no introduction|pg|| nt|vugraph7: lots of kibitzers at the table|pg|| mb|5D|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|kareno: This lead allows east to ruff his diamond losers and he will attempt to discard a club but that should be ruffed and he will make 5.|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|nt|kareno: There is really no choice of plays.|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|hA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|c2|pc|h9|pg|| nt|tsanders: appeared initially a trump lead would set E, but he still would make 6@h, 3@s, 1@d and 1 @d ruff for 11|pg|| nt|kareno: Since south luckily (for declarer) holds only one trump.|pg|| nt|tsanders: did he make 6?|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SQ7HKQJ96DKQJCAJ6,SAJHAT7D986CKT972,ST9643H85DT532CQ4,SK852H432DA74C853|sv|b|nt|kareno: He made only 5.|pg|| nt|kareno: Lost one club and one ruff.|pg|| nt|tsanders: operator, scored 9 incorectly|pg|| nt|vugraph7: sorry --- there was a water knocked over at the table, had to deal with that first. :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kareno: It appears to have been a push board.|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h4|nt|kareno: Does the other room have Brachman's E/W pair playing throughout?|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|tsanders: only 4 I think|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|vugraph7: these guys flip the cards fast :( |pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|nt|tsanders: appears to be 2 off|pg|| nt|kareno: As I understand it, the running score has no meaning because there is no live comparison with Brachman's e/w pair.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: not entirely true --- I'm being brought comparisons from the Brachman EW pair|pg|| nt|tsanders: really, wonder why?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the two tables being broadcast aren't linked|pg|| nt|kareno: Ahhh.. so we are actually seeing Brachman's results board by board. Wonderful for our viewers.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: as for why, my guess is that it's because having a stationary EW pair causes some disruption|pg|| nt|tsanders: BBO always figures out a way|pg|| nt|tsanders: Hard to compare at BAM. Incidentally BAM=board-a-match|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, they would have to rearrange the movement for us. They are very cooperative letting us watch live as it is!|pg|| nt|vugraph7: still pondering|pg|| nt|tsanders: Many experts consider board-a-match the most exacting form of the game. Equal weight is accorded each deal and every trick is important when scoring is board-by-board. Scoring is 1 ...|pg|| nt|tsanders: point for winning the board, 1/2 point for a tie, and 0 for losing it.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the Brachman team was in the lead after the first day, with a 4 board carryover|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|h6|pc|cT|pg|| nt|kareno: Greco and Hampson have gotten high because Greco evaluated his 19 points as a 2NT opener. I'm not sure if their range includes 19.|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|kareno: Do we know who is playing e/w for Brachman's team?|pg|| nt|tsanders: EW a big favorite to win this board because their teammates are more conservative|pg|| nt|vugraph7: EW are Passell / Wold (no guarantees on the spelling)|pg|| nt|tsanders: Wold and Passell|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S8642HA4D853CAJ86,SKT3HKQ9752DKCK53,SAQHT83DAT942CQT9,SJ975HJ6DQJ76C742|sv|o|nt|kareno: You've spelled them correctly :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|tsanders: Am asked if I know Wold/Passell. Yes indeed. They ahve been around for some time and are world class players, Both reside in Texas|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: sorry -- East passed in tempo|pg|| mb|d|mb|r|nt|tsanders: Willenken resides in NY. Polowan seems to be everywhere but calls NY his home as well|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Greco was the one thinking|pg|| nt|kareno: Dangerous balance into a likely misfit.|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|kareno: Polowan's hand is just too weak to double. Anyone on the panel double with the four-card holding?|pg|| nt|kareno: It would be a mistake :)|pg|| nt|tsanders: too weak, besides N may be making|pg|| pc|h4|nt|tsanders: Is Willenken an AMEX options trader Karen?|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dK|nt|kareno: Excellent shift by Willenken.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| nt|kareno: I think he is - but remember - I left the Amex quite a few years ago and I left New York early in 2001.|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| nt|kareno: The redouble by Chris Willenken has placed the majority of the high cards with west.|pg|| nt|aconterno: good play so far|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s7|pc|d5|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h7|mc|9|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SQ952HJDKQ7542C74,SKHA32DAJT86CT532,SAJ73HKQ964DCA986,ST864HT875D93CKQJ|sv|n|nt|kareno: Interesting play in clubs. The common wisdom is that the player who doesn't cover an honor hasn't got it. Still declarer could have been open to a ruff in that suit.|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d!|an|4 or 5 spades|nt|aconterno: a misfit hand here|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N!|an|(denies 3 spades)|mb|d|mb|p|nt|kareno: Note the expert bid of 1@h by north. First overcall, then double later with a good suit and values. That's the modern practice and I think it's best.|pg|| nt|tsanders: 4@s still in the picture|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|aconterno: Dbl was 4 or 5 @s|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: I tend to devalue a 4-4-4-1 or 5-4-4 hand. They just don't play as well as their high cards indicate.|pg|| nt|kareno: Lively pass by Greco of 1NT doubled. I think that was a takeout double.|pg|| pc|hK|nt|vugraph7: it was -- and he explained it to chris as such|pg|| nt|kareno: Greco's diamonds are spotless.|pg|| nt|tsanders: This is the Semi finals of the Reisinger. There arre still 26 team left to play today, which will probably be 2 boards vs each team.|pg|| nt|aconterno: but the double over 1nt after bidding 1@h is with @s and @c´s|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, and south would have done well to bid spades. |pg|| nt|tsanders: They will cut the field for the finals to probably 11 teams|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|tsanders: That will be held tomorrow and seen right here on BBO|pg|| nt|kareno: The late, great Edgar Kaplan remarked often that you do best to take out partner's takeout doubles and leave in his penalty doubles.|pg|| nt|kareno: Declarer doing well to get trumps out. He knows diamonds are held on his right and will play through south in that suit.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|c7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I just asked, and they're cutting the field down to 14 tomorrow|pg|| nt|kareno: That will still make a wonderful event. The 14 teams playing best in the event playing a round robin. If today is tough, just think how hard this event will be for the survivors.|pg|| nt|tsanders: the @c attack looks best|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|d5|pc|c3|pg|| nt|kareno: Now the diamond.|pg|| nt|kareno: Spades might have been better to remove declarer's trumps before he can set up diamonds.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: we're just into the next round... :-/|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I suspect a director will be paying a visit soon|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|d2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kareno: Not best. Now declarer is free to finesse the six (!!) of diamonds.|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SQT9HJDAK97432C82,SHAQ74DT8CKT97543,SK6542HK852DQ5CJ6,SAJ873HT963DJ6CAQ|sv|b|mb|p|nt|tsanders: new opponents, but not posted yet|pg|| mb|1S|mb|3D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|aconterno: good spot despite the 4-1 in @h|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| nt|kareno: As long as east plays a low heart the first time he leads them.|pg|| nt|tsanders: 3 rounds of @ds is best, gives defense a chance|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|kareno: True but it's a very hard play to make.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: it takes me a minute to look up the names --- I don't know _all_ of the players here. :)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: (plus I'm not very good with spelling) :)|pg|| nt|kareno: I think the viewgraph operators have been doing a sensational job!!|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c3|nt|aconterno: there it is the 3rd round of @d|pg|| nt|kareno: There - now we'll see it with a sluff-ruff presented by Eric Greco.|pg|| nt|tsanders: Mossop resides in Switzerland; Rees in England|pg|| nt|aconterno: discard a @c|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|nt|kareno: The Kibitzers agree with my praise for the Viewgraph operators .. |pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|vugraph7: ty =)|pg|| nt|kareno: Strong duck by north. Declarer should not be fooled after the weak jump by south.|pg|| nt|tsanders: BAM is very tough on operators since new opponents coming every 2 boards. Agree on good job|pg|| nt|vugraph7: time for the first hospitality break has been added to the clock this round|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|kareno: That will make east happy.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|h8|pg|| nt|tsanders: once more: BAM= board-a-match|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SJT8H87DKQT6CT853,SAKQ72H42DA753CA4,S5HQJT95DJ84CK762,S9643HAK63D92CQJ9|sv|o|nt|kareno: The club pitch by north made this play easy for east. Had he held his clubs, east would have had to guess well.|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: BAM is the ultimate form of Matchpoint scoring. |pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: It is most important not to step out and put boards at risk.. most often they will be won or lost on better defense/declarer play.|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|kareno: What you most want to do is to present the same problem to declarer that your teammate is having to deal with at the other table.|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|tsanders: 2NT may be the equivelent of Drury|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I -think- 2NT was explained as "limit raise to 3@S or better"|pg|| mb|4H|nt|kareno: 2NT is??|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I can't always hear their whispers clearly though|pg|| nt|kareno: On board 13, Passell/wold made 4@h, impressive!|pg|| nt|tsanders: possible to over reach|pg|| mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: I think you could say that BAM is matchpoint to the Nth degree :) Remember there's only one comparison.|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kareno: If 2NT is Jacoby, then 3NT is probably some maximum hand perhaps without great @s length.|pg|| nt|kareno: And on this board, they stopped safely at 4@s, looking like two wins for Brachman.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|kareno: You can click on Movie I believe and see the line in the other room.|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the two tables being broadcast aren't linked|pg|| nt|vugraph7: they'll be linked tonight (we hope) but for now we have two different NS pairs (2 teams)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|kareno: I suspect west expected more from east's raise.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d3|nt|tsanders: hit 'next' under the hand in the movie and you can see how the hand was played in other room|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|c7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|kareno: The comparisons were from a sneaky kibitzer who actually went to find out the results :)|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Actually a sneaky director is getting the results from the Brachman EW pair and bringing them over to me after each round.|pg|| nt|kareno: I think east's bid was systemically a game forcing raise and west naturally could not resist (could you?).|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I'm entering them so that we have an actual comparison, but all I get is the results.|pg|| nt|tsanders: for you late comers: Many experts consider board-a-match the most exacting form of the game. Equal weight is accorded each deal and every trick is important when scoring is ...|pg|| nt|tsanders: board-by-board. Scoring is 1 point for winning the board, 1/2 point for a tie, and 0 for losing it.|pg|| nt|kareno: Oh, right, east was passed. However, west had a great hand and east could easily have had more.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Eric and Geoff don't think that 2nt was GF (esp since rees was a passed hand)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: just some kind of 4 card @S raise|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SKJ43HA3DQJ9CQT75,SAQ8652H6DK76CK94,ST9HKJT9DA85CA632,S7HQ87542DT432CJ8|sv|n|mb|1D!|an|2+ !ds|mb|1S|mb|d!|an|a) Neg or b) 5!H GF|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|vugraph7: >>>>> Board 15|pg|| mb|2S|nt|tsanders: Bizon/Kniecien both reside in Poland|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Bizon and Kwiecien's teammates are Pszczola and Lev|pg|| mb|d|nt|kareno: A double here works well.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: their team was tied for 9/10|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|tsanders: and are playing 4-handed with Sam Lev, originally from Poland|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: West would have to play out of his hand. South lets west off the hook.|pg|| nt|kareno: Not that it is easy to pass for penalties by south. |pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| nt|vugraph7: upsidedown carding for EW|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|nt|tsanders: S knows where the minor suit Ks should be, but has some management to do|pg|| nt|tsanders: notice he saved a @c entry to dummy, just in case|pg|| nt|vugraph7: there's a little table talk... 1nt = 14-16, so the defense knows south is limited to 13 hcp if balanced|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|h4|pc|cT|pg|| nt|tsanders: he knows E is out of @ss as well|pg|| nt|tsanders: what does he do with all that information?|pg|| nt|poohbear: hi all|pg|| nt|vugraph7: aside from thinking for a long time? =)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Barry Goren from USA|pg|| nt|kareno: Hi Barry :)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: hello|pg|| nt|poohbear: hi karen hi tommy|pg|| nt|tsanders: Hi Barry|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|tsanders: the running score at upper left is meaningless|pg|| nt|kareno: I thought we were getting actual comparisons?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the brachman carryover is 4 boards, but for whatever reason it's only showing up as 2 (I think)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the comparisons *are* correct, but the brachman score is off by 2|pg|| nt|kareno: That was the carryover or their lead after the day?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I was told that the assigned carryover was 4 boards |pg|| nt|vugraph7: (they won yesterday by 4.5 boards)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s2|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|mc|10|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SAK8H9DQJ53CJ9654,SQJT65HKT863D86C3,S742HAQ752DA4CAQ7,S93HJ4DKT972CKT82|sv|e|nt|tsanders: he had a strip sqz without the favorable @d switch|pg|| mb|2H!|an|weak 5!Hs + another suit|nt|kareno: Looks like another 3NT unless e/w get frisky.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: we will see if NS can penalize|pg|| nt|kareno: If they have a major-suited two bid, then they'd better pick spades!!|pg|| nt|tsanders: if EW get too frisky with 19 major cards, it might be bloody|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|tsanders: 10, not 19|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Does Kwiecien feel the hot breath on his shoulder and can he run?|pg|| mb|r|mb|p|nt|kareno: I believe 2@h showed a two-suited hand including hearts.|pg|| mb|2S|nt|vugraph7: I put the alert in:|pg|| nt|vugraph7: weak with 5@H and any other suit|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: (if a bid gets alerted, I try to type in the explanation if I can make it out)|pg|| nt|kareno: That's a much better spot than 2@h was because of the suit breaks.|pg|| nt|tsanders: east hoping other suit was a minor|pg|| pc|s2|nt|poohbear: declarer goal is to take 7 tricks on this hand|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the round was just called --- going to be behind again|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| nt|kareno: He has to try to keep the penalty below game - 500 will be a probable loss.|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|nt|poohbear: he does have 3 spades at least 1 heart and 2 well placed minor suit kings |pg|| nt|kareno: North knows south can ruff the next low heart and take out the dummy's trump.|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kareno: N/S have just enough to get 500.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| nt|kareno: Easy defense. Good outcome for N/S.|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|poohbear: and a board not likely to be duplicated cause North will probably open 1 heart at the other table|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|kareno: This result came about because of e/w's defensive bidding methods.|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kareno: Best not underlead the diamond or the good result will be lost!|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|nt|poohbear: Well Bizon caught a totally worthless dummy and is still taking 6 tricks|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| nt|kareno: No mistakes here and a fine result for Greco/Hampson.|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SQ952H95DAJ42C932,SJH8643DQT973CAQJ,SAT763HAK2DK85CT6,SK84HQJT7D6CK8754|sv|o|mb|1N!|an|14-16|mb|d!|nt|poohbear: 14-16 nt . will EW compete? |pg|| nt|tsanders: If 2 board carryover is correct, then score at upper left is correct|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Dbl = *usually* a 4 card major with a longer minor|pg|| nt|poohbear: They are better off letting the opps play 1nt but noone does that anymore:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: it's a 4 board carryover -- the score in upper left is off by 2|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|an|pass/correct|nt|poohbear: Can NS get back to spades?|pg|| nt|kareno: I think it's up to North now to bid them or lose them.|pg|| nt|poohbear: 3spades is cold and 4 is on a finesse|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|kareno: And he did as most of us would I suspect.|pg|| nt|tsanders: live by the sword.................|pg|| nt|kareno: ..........die by the sword|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|poohbear: par is 4h dbled down 1 I believe|pg|| nt|kareno: Please notice, kibitzers, how very hard the experts fight over part-scores.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: hehehe. Goldsmith wrote: how often a 5 card major in 1nt?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Hampson: including this hand?|pg|| nt|poohbear: LOL|pg|| nt|kareno: Funny!!|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Though I have seen these boys overcall 1nt Natural with a 6 card major so perhaps he asked the wrong question:)|pg|| nt|kareno: Again west hopes to get out for down one!! |pg|| nt|tsanders: Popper resides in Delaware, Goldsmith in California|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h7|nt|poohbear: Key to defense here is to score a club ruff. |pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| nt|poohbear: now too late. |pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| nt|poohbear: though had they tried for it Declarer would have needed to play a @D early to kill souths entry|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|tsanders: west obviously sure E held @h, so double of 1NT must have been a 2-suiter|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Dbl = *usually* 4 c Major and longer minor, sometimes 3 card major and 6 card minor|pg|| nt|vugraph7: or just @ds or a lot of points|pg|| nt|tsanders: a sissors coup|pg|| nt|vugraph7: (it's a very long note :))|pg|| nt|kareno: Richard Popper gets his lost board back with a good result.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Also the 9 of hearts in norths hand would allow the defense to set up another trump trick by tapping east but the 2 doesnt cut it|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|poohbear: So EW are slated to get a good result by achieving par|pg|| nt|kareno: He's got three heart tricks a spade and five clubs for down one. -300 would have been a probable loss.|pg|| pc|d8|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s2|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|poohbear: You will hear us talk alot about the "par result" that is the best possible result assuming everyone does everything right.|pg|| nt|poohbear: It is a key function of BAM since in a perfect world if everyone achieved it there would be no wins:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the score brought over to me really does say 3@S-1 at the other table|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S74HKQT4DKJ87CJ62,SQ965H92DA4C98753,SKJT32HJ83DQ3CAKQ,SA8HA765DT9652CT4|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|15-17|nt|poohbear: oh yea @d ruff|pg|| mb|d!|nt|vugraph7: oh no, I don't want to have to type all that again. *sigh*|pg|| nt|vugraph7: y'all can just scroll up. :)|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|kareno: We remember that a four-card major and longer minor is included in this convention.|pg|| nt|poohbear: how often do they open 1 NT with a 6 card major:)?|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 2cl is stayman|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: ish|pg|| nt|tsanders: S chose to ignore E's double because of vul|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Round 7 just called --- hopefully this one will go (relatively) quickly|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|poohbear: Defense can keep Declarer off the dummy for the last heart trick by ducking the ace twice|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|poohbear: so declarer counters by playing on spades|pg|| nt|poohbear: looks like 3 aces to the defense now|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|kareno: Diamond now?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|poohbear: declarer would play black cards and exit a heart|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, he could do that - prefer to force him to make the play, however :)|pg|| nt|poohbear: East would be forced to concede to dummy|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SK9652HA98DA8C943,SAQJ4H652DJ5CAK86,STHKTDKQ9632CJT75,S873HQJ743DT74CQ2|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|1N|nt|kareno: Here are the current world champions!!|pg|| mb|2D|nt|poohbear: Brachman always seems to do well when I watch them on Vugraph:) I led them to the Reisenger win last year:)|pg|| mb|2H|nt|tsanders: Duboin/Bocchi, world champions, Italians, and one of the best pairs in the world|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 2hearts goes down 1 on a spade lead|pg|| nt|vugraph7: bocchi is easy to spot in the room -- he's wearing a pair of *bright* canary yellow pants (and an english polo team shirt) |pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|poohbear: but Greco decides that descretion is the better part of valor|pg|| nt|tsanders: this looks makeable|pg|| pc|c3|nt|tsanders: only needs 1 @c trick, or ruff a @c|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, it's pretty risky to pass a doubled partscore at BAM. You MUST be right or the board is out of reach.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Defense cant even force a trump guess|pg|| nt|vugraph7: EW are playing for Lou Ann O'Rourke: their teammates are Lou Ann, Peter Fredin, Magnus Lindkvist and Marc Jacobus|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|poohbear: but by the same token sometimes it is just right to go for the win|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| nt|vugraph7: they finished yesterday in 4th place|pg|| nt|kareno: International team with very good partnerships.|pg|| nt|tsanders: EW playing with Swedes, Fredin/Lindevist, and US Mark Jacobus/ Lou Ann O'Rourke|pg|| nt|poohbear: Duboin likely to play a low club back in order to get a spade play. Remember he doesnt know who has the Jack for sure|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SKHAQ83DAK97CQ986,SQJT53HJ7DJ8CKT73,SA8762HK95DQ43CA5,S94HT642DT652CJ42|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|poohbear: 31 points with no fit. likely 3nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|poohbear: North limited to 13 points|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: as we have seen all 14 pointers with 5 card majors open 1 nt|pg|| nt|kareno: That's important for this pair and removes all risk of getting too high with that excellent (in HCP) south hand.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 2nt = 11-13|pg|| nt|tsanders: got some red suit guessing to do|pg|| pc|d6|nt|poohbear: Also EW now have no clue as to the strength of the south hand|pg|| nt|kareno: Heart lead would be costly.|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|poohbear: heart and @D suits both can be guessed by finessing on the 3rd round|pg|| nt|vugraph7: *laughing* norby's doing card tricks with the @D6|pg|| nt|vugraph7: he's not bad|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Hampson was looking at Bocchi's cc --- bocchi picked up their massive red binder of system notes and dumped it on his lap :)|pg|| nt|poohbear: Is it in English?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|nt|poohbear: otherwise Norby wouldnt be able to read it|pg|| nt|tsanders: doesn't sound funny to me|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| nt|poohbear: important to unblock the 9 of hearts|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|poohbear: at some point|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|poohbear: so as not to block the suit|pg|| nt|poohbear: alot of people miss that play|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|kareno: Still okay as long as there's a dummy entry in diamonds.|pg|| nt|kareno: However, the nine IS in the way :)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Please welcome Roger Bryant from England|pg|| nt|roghog: hi folks|pg|| nt|kareno: Hello, Roger :)|pg|| nt|poohbear: well now declarer hasnt got enuff entries to guess both red suits|pg|| nt|roghog: nearly missed norby!|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|kareno: He's hard to miss!|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|poohbear: but can resort to an end play IF East doesnt unblock club jack|pg|| nt|roghog: lol|pg|| nt|vugraph7: especially today|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|c8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|poohbear: set up for the endplay now|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|tsanders: Welc Roger, plese take my place as I must go now. See you all tonight|pg|| pc|dK|nt|poohbear: notice West is trying to convey short spades|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| nt|kareno: Bye Tommy :)|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|roghog: cheers Tommy|pg|| nt|poohbear: taking the minimum very surprising|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SAQ87HA732D75CT64,SKJ52HJDAQ642CAK9,ST63H4DKJT83CQ753,S94HKQT9865D9CJ82|sv|n|nt|poohbear: Hampson and Greco need to root for the Italians to bid slam in the other room|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Hackett doesnt even hesitate and passes 3h|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm afraid I would bid with the west hand. |pg|| pc|sA|nt|roghog: the dynamic Hax preempt on anything - hence the pass|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d7|nt|poohbear: even with his huge hand he needed most of those @h spots in pards hand and still might be defeated on a club lead|pg|| nt|kareno: Aha, something you'd know better than I. Is that east hand a 1@h bid then? |pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|h5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|roghog: he must be tired, usually opens 4@h on that!|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|h8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|d6|nt|poohbear: trump squeeze available|pg|| nt|poohbear: not any more|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|h6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|sJ|nt|poohbear: had declarer guessed to come down to AK of clubs and Qx of @d what 4 cards can north hold?|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|roghog: Hax are at their best when the oppos have a contract. they budget for missing the odd game, and try to jockey the oppo out of some of theirs|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4ST74HT43DJ62CAT93,SK953HK65DA74CQ76,S86HAJ9872DQ853CK,SAQJ2HQDKT9CJ8542|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|roghog: need to get @c right in 4@s|pg|| nt|poohbear: 4 card majors is a very good weapon at BAM cause it is so Preemptive|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|roghog: yes, very European...|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Sometimes even depriving the opps from there fit:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: And it's unnatural to play first toward the long suit without any information.|pg|| mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|poohbear: 4@D likely showed a balanced raise with 4 trumps|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|poohbear: East wasnt going anywhere|pg|| nt|kareno: My partner and I play four-card majors. But not on this east hand.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the computer thinks that EW are the same person so I can't enter additional info, but Jason is East and Justin is West|pg|| nt|roghog: Hax dont bother with minors!|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|poohbear: forcing defense best. though North thinks his pard might be ruffing this|pg|| pc|sA|nt|roghog: nonidentical twins, of course|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|nt|poohbear: helps on Defense when EW is one person:)|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c4|nt|poohbear: also in the bidding:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Greco is asking about what hand shapes they'll open a 4 card major in --- Justin basically said that if they're good spades, he could have a minor also and still open 1@S|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| nt|poohbear: wow|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Geoff is taking a walk|pg|| nt|poohbear: hardly likely that North was getting endplayed|pg|| nt|vugraph7: they caught up though -- 5 minutes until the next round.|pg|| nt|poohbear: dont blame him. often the best thing to do when things are going bad is to take a walk|pg|| nt|poohbear: especially when u want to avoid a murder rap:)|pg|| nt|roghog: the only problem with this sort of event (for specs) is the waiting between rounds. but we get to see lots of world-class players|pg|| nt|kareno: I've sent pards to go wash their face (and gone myself) after one or more bad results. |pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1S4HAQT92DCKQ96543,SJ7H73DKQT98743C2,SQT98HK8DAJ65CAJT,SAK6532HJ654D2C87|sv|b|mb|2C!|an|6+ !Cs 11-15|nt|poohbear: 2 cl is natural and less than 16 points|pg|| mb|4D|nt|poohbear: at least 6 clubs|pg|| nt|roghog: world champs!|pg|| nt|poohbear: dbl by north would be negative I think|pg|| nt|poohbear: likely to be his bid|pg|| nt|vugraph7: EW are on the Jacobs team: George Jacobs, Ralph Katz, Steve Garner and Howard Weinstein|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: They finished yesterday tied 19/21|pg|| nt|kareno: They're happy to be in the event. My team qualified 20/20 in the Women's and happily did well afterwards :)|pg|| nt|poohbear: Greco has an impossible bid. |pg|| nt|poohbear: 5h perhaps?|pg|| nt|poohbear: 5d doesnt suggest a side 5 card heart suit|pg|| nt|kareno: I think 5@h is okay. The great Al Roth said of hands like this, "When you're fixed, stay fixed."|pg|| nt|poohbear: might as well bid what you got|pg|| nt|kareno: He meant don't try to compensate for what the opponents have taken from you - do the best you can where you are.|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|nt|poohbear: everyone thought the bid would be 5d and y'all are right:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: though they would have missed a spade fit if that was Souths suit|pg|| nt|roghog: good pressure bid by AV, but they still get to 6@c (needs a @s lead to beat 7@c)|pg|| nt|poohbear: of course hearts not out of the picture yet and scores more|pg|| nt|poohbear: spade lead to beat 7 hearts I think|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Think the defense figures out the lead against 6 nt:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: Geoff must be loving this:)|pg|| nt|kareno: Greco not wanting to stay fixed. 6@h will make with the heart finesse.|pg|| nt|poohbear: thinking : Who can I get as a sub for the rest of this round:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: session rather:)|pg|| nt|roghog: cruel hand for NS, after a bad last board. why does bridge always do that to you?|pg|| mb|6N|mb|d|nt|kareno: Oops - from a makable contract into the frying pan. |pg|| nt|poohbear: IF Greco had same hand with kx of spades then 6 nt would be right|pg|| nt|kareno: Who would NOT double with Lauria's hand .......................................me.|pg|| mb|7C|mb|p|nt|roghog: Lorenzo dbls, but he wont be on lead to 7@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: I woulda just bid 5hearts before and gotten it off my chest:)|pg|| nt|kareno: Must call for a spade lead.|pg|| nt|poohbear: AGREED|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|kareno: I said I'd bid 5@h - was I the only one?|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|poohbear: me too|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|nt|poohbear: not often we agree Karen :) and now 2 in a row:))|pg|| nt|kareno: Good grief! Call the cops :-)|pg|| nt|poohbear: in the course of 3 seconds:)|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2STHK95DAKQ6543C84,SKQHQ43DJ82CJ7632,SJ652HJT862DTCA95,SA98743HA7D97CKQT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|roghog: one down|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|h6|nt|kareno: Got to get the heart play in. Sure looks like down one.|pg|| nt|kareno: North has two entries to find it.|pg|| nt|roghog: ...as long as the defence gets its @h|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Lauria is asking about the carding|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|vugraph7: feel like they added the hospitality break to this round ... 11 minutes remaining on the clock|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kareno: Sort of looks like a trump coup possible but.. not enough entries to do all the work I think.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|roghog: think he can just do it|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|kareno: The kibitzers are all for the trump coup - let's watch Lauria, the top player in the WBF and see if he finds it.|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|cT|nt|roghog: he will ruff a winning @c and eventually exit with the @h|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|kareno: Does anyone know anything about Robb Gordon's condition? (he apparently had a massive heart attack yesterday in the Swiss)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: short break --- 6 minutes left in the round.|pg|| nt|roghog: key to last hand was reading 10@s as a singleton. so, if your playing against LL, remember to falsecard with the 10 from 10-x :-)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SKQ9843HDAKCK9765,S2HKQ652DT942CAJ8,SJ5H98743D873CQ43,SAT76HAJTDQJ65CT2|sv|e|nt|roghog: spec observes that N does better to discard 2 low @c on the @d|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|vugraph7: West is Maggie Shenkin --- Barnett was kibitzing her earlier in the session|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|kareno: I'll say it to all - that's hindsight. How does north know south hasn't got Qx of clubs?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Her partner is Syra Vahidy from Pakistan -- they are a new partnership, playing with Nicolas Hammond and Ed Foran, both from Atlanta. The team was, I believe, formed at the hotel ...|pg|| nt|vugraph7: bar the day before yesterday. |pg|| nt|poohbear: This event is too tuff for Barnett. He managed to find himself on a qality team in the NA swiss|pg|| nt|poohbear: quality|pg|| mb|3H|mb|4H|nt|kareno: Too tough for me too - I'm in my hotel room in Orlando typing away :)|pg|| mb|5H|nt|poohbear: There is Diseyworld Karen:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: It will do just fine without me, Barry :)|pg|| nt|kareno: Though I rather like Seaworld.|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Talk about par!!|pg|| nt|poohbear: notice that with 5 bad trumps North didnt get into his pards way|pg|| nt|vugraph7: uh oh --- a pair at the next table is in trouble for not having a completed cc. Now they're only allowed to play standard with blackwood and stayman until they complete their ...|pg|| nt|vugraph7: cards.|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kareno: But only if south plays 4S with mirrors!|pg|| nt|poohbear: anyone we know?:)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s3|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|poohbear: WE WANT GOSSIP:)|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dT|nt|poohbear: Declarer cannot ruff a club without setting up a trump for North|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|nt|poohbear: that saved a trick|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|hT|pc|c7|pg|| nt|poohbear: to avoid the end play South needed to play spades|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|poohbear: after cashing the othger @D|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg|| nt|poohbear: guessed tis worked as welll|pg|| nt|poohbear: I need coffee:)|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SJ9754HJ9D975CJ83,S6HT764DAJT62CKT2,ST82HQ8532DK83CA7,SAKQ3HAKDQ4CQ9654|sv|b|nt|kareno: Here's a cup!|pg|| nt|poohbear: TY:)|pg|| nt|kareno: And a cookie!!|pg|| nt|poohbear: cant win cokes without coffee:)|pg|| mb|1C|nt|poohbear: Ty:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Most would open that East hand 2nt|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|poohbear: and get to 3nt after a stayman auction|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, but it is a skewed hand - I like 1c! fine.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Syra is Zia's cousin, btw|pg|| nt|poohbear: Here there will be alot of info revealed about the East hand|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|roghog: all roads seem to lead to 3NT|pg|| nt|kareno: Sports report from a kibitzer - Syracuse destroying BC - no BCS bowl for Boston College.|pg|| mb|3N|nt|poohbear: Yes true|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: Likely to be Pitt|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Still need to get an undefeated out of there|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Ah, Barry understands the sports report :-)|pg|| nt|poohbear: hmmmmm|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|poohbear: 5cl seems like a strange bid|pg|| nt|roghog: ..especially at this scoring|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I've entered the comparisons through Board 24 so the movie is accurate but the running tally on this screen is off by 2 (it assigned brachman a 2 board carryover when in fact they ...|pg|| nt|vugraph7: have a 4 board carryover)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|nt|kareno: Solodar's Law - 3NT ends ALL auctions. Guess Maggie didn't read that chapter :)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: or at least it was off by 2 earlier...|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|poohbear: you mean Vahidy:)|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| nt|kareno: Oh, sorry.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Vahidy s goal here is to figure out a lie of the cards where she makes 5c and 3nt goes down|pg|| nt|poohbear: or only makes 3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s6|nt|poohbear: she started well by playing North for AJX of clubs|pg|| nt|kareno: So wouldn't you play clubs backwards then?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: declarer pulled the wrong card and had to play it|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|poohbear: irrelevant|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| nt|roghog: thats the thing about BAM. zero is zero, and you cant do any worse :-(|pg|| nt|kareno: And then you go on to the next board. Not like IMPs where a board can cost a fortune.|pg|| nt|poohbear: goals in BAM a constantly changing as the hand progresses . I remember 1 hand where I started to play 6@h for a make and by the end of the hand I was trying to take 8 tricks since ...|pg|| nt|poohbear: I knew the other side could make game in spades:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: turned out that I had a trick leeway since they DBLED 4@s at the other table:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: won the board -400 to my teammates +590|pg|| nt|roghog: we dont have much BAM (or point-a-board as we call it) in Europe, unfortunately |pg|| nt|poohbear: and I am available for bidding lessons:)|pg|| nt|kareno: Ahh, they got the spades right then.|pg|| nt|roghog: spec isnt surprised we call it something different!!|pg|| mc|9|pg||