vg|2004 Senior KO Teams,2nd Quarter Semi,I,17,32,RosenKranz,17,Ames,29| rs|5DN-2,3NE-3,3NN+2,3DE=,3CE-1,1DS+1,6SN-1,7SN=,3HW-1,3DS=,4CW=,3NE-2,4SS+2,4SS+2,4NW-2,4SE+1,3DS=,3NN=,2SS=,2SS=,3NS-1,3NN+1,6SEx-3,6SEx-3,4SE-1,4SE-1,4SS+1,5HN-1,3NE-2,3CE-1,1NE-1,1HN=| pn|Ferguson,Egan,Bates,Beery,Koch,Rosenkran,Ames,Reygadas|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SAJT9HQDT8753C876,SQ865H85DA6CAKJ32,SK4HA9732DKQ92CQ4,S732HKJT64DJ4CT95|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2D|an|doesn't have 3 spades|mb|3C|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|d7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h7|pc|dJ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SAJT9HQDT8753C876,SQ865H85DA6CAKJ32,SK4HA9732DKQ92CQ4,S732HKJT64DJ4CT95|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: The finals of the Reisinger B-a-M Teams (open series) will also be shown at BBO on Sunday. For full schedule please visit www.bridgebase.com/online/vg.html|pg|| mb|d|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|swanson: Our new opponents are Pam Wittes and Rene Mancuso, out here from my territory. I'll be a homer and root for them.|pg|| mb|3D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|swanson: All is well here for declarer because East can never regain the lead, even if she clears hearts.|pg|| nt|inquiry: welcome back...|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cA|nt|csimon: declarer can just play @ds out of her hand for the 9th trick|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d5|nt|swanson: Declarer will cash the spades, then overtake a club to lead towards the @DK.|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c9|nt|csimon: then she will go down - 2@cs & 1@d|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|swanson: She won't cash a club first.|pg|| nt|inquiry: stepping stone...|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s3|pc|dT|nt|Walddk2: Bjerkan is squeezed when the last spade comes|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|h3|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S986HJ87642DJ6CKT,SJ7432HDT98542C52,SAK5HQ53DAQ3CAQ97,SQTHAKT9DK7CJ8643|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|d4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|mc|11|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S986HJ87642DJ6CKT,SJ7432HDT98542C52,SAK5HQ53DAQ3CAQ97,SQTHAKT9DK7CJ8643|sv|n|mb|1D|an|could be only 2|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|inquiry: guess it goes without saying that 3@D was preemptive... :-)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph9: asdkjfl;skdjf;lsdkjf;lsdkjf|pg|| nt|vugraph9: j|pg|| pc|h7|nt|aconterno: pass now?|pg|| nt|csimon: too good|pg|| pc|c2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hK|nt|aconterno: wow|pg|| nt|swanson: But not that good.|pg|| nt|aconterno: hehe|pg|| pc|h2|nt|csimon: the south hand is difficult to handle in a standard system - canape or club system is better for this hand|pg|| nt|aconterno: not double for @h lead?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h3|pg|| nt|inquiry: possible swing for Rosenkranz as 4@H wins 4@Hs, 3@Cs, 2@S, 1@d for 10 tricks....|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|swanson: Too dangerous to double. Partner may have only one heart. |pg|| nt|csimon: that is surprising Alfredo - Bjerkan might have risked double|pg|| pc|s8|nt|aconterno: i will can be the only chance to beat|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|nt|csimon: and at this form of scoring, west can really tolerate no other lead|pg|| nt|swanson: Declarer's only chance for her ninth trick (after the @CQ doesn't drop) is to go after hearts (and it works!)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|swanson: Should have covered that 9.|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|c3|mc|9|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S742HAKT9DAT64CJ7,SQ86HQ82DKQ7CA832,SKJT5H743DJ932CT5,SA93HJ65D85CKQ964|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Luis Argerich of Argentina|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hola Luis|pg|| mb|1S|nt|lrargerich: Hola Roland, Hi All|pg|| mb|1N|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: I think I don't like any dbl here |pg|| nt|Walddk2: This is the second half of a seniors' knock-out match I believe|pg|| mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|Walddk2: Please welcome Barry Goren from USA|pg|| pc|h7|nt|poohbear: hi all:)|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|s7|nt|lrargerich: If Ferguson dbl is a support dbl I think it should be optional|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|nt|lrargerich: Bates should've played the Ten of spades this may be an operator error|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We will add a couple of commentators in about 15 minutes|pg|| nt|poohbear: would be nice if declarer could duck this but the defense can return a heart and set up the second spade before a @D gets established|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They are scheduled for 1 pm New York, 19:00 Paris|pg|| nt|poohbear: though the strange play of the !J may have a neg effect on the defense|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Just a typo, he played the @sT|pg|| nt|poohbear: ah then everything should be fine|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Down one, no swing|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d5|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S742HAKT9DAT64CJ7,SQ86HQ82DKQ7CA832,SKJT5H743DJ932CT5,SA93HJ65D85CKQ964|sv|e|nt|aconterno: but will be the same 4@h and one @s|pg|| nt|inquiry: This could be a huge swing for Rosenkrantz, of 12 imps if NS bid 4@H at other table|pg|| mb|1D|an|may be 1|nt|inquiry: even more, 13 imps.. that makes this match really close....|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: I'm still wondering where that 3NT came from.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|inquiry: another game swing on this one maybe. 3NT by WEst seems cold....|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| nt|aconterno: down 2 while 4@s was going down "if" she finds the @d killer lead|pg|| pc|cK|nt|csimon: this will be -300 in all likelihood|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|nt|swanson: 4@S was down after a club lead and diamond shift.|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|nt|aconterno: true @c lead and @d swich will work too|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|s3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sJ|nt|swanson: When things are going really well 5@C comes home with the @HA and @CK onside.|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|csimon: in which case, it might be better to stop off and double 4@s|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAQ3H72D74CAQ6543,S72H654DT9853CK72,SKJ965HAQT9DAKQCT,ST84HKJ83DJ62CJ98|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|poohbear: possible 6 spades on this one but declarer needs to do something with the heart suit|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Please welcome the Abbot .... I mean the man behind the famous Abbot, David Bird from England|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Stablish clubs :-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hello David|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi, everyone!|pg|| nt|lrargerich: With clubs 3-3 6 spades is an easy contract|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|poohbear: I doubt that he takes that line luis. not percentage|pg|| nt|poohbear: needs 3-3 clubs and 3-2 trumps|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I'm very sure it's the percentage play|pg|| mb|3S|nt|poohbear: yea from up here:)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Playing a club finesse of course|pg|| mb|p|nt|lrargerich: You need clubs 3-3 or 4-2 with the club K onside|pg|| mb|4C|nt|Walddk2: One pass is missing|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: how bout pitching a heart on the @d and cross ruffing|pg|| mb|4S|nt|Walddk2: Egan passed, Bates bid 4@C|pg|| nt|brolucius: It's unusual to cue-bid shortage opposite partner's main suit. I guess he felt free after the previous 3@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|rbeye2: Vugraph, you are out of sequence, UNDO|pg|| mb|5S|nt|lrargerich: I think that's slightly inferior to playing the club finesse and stablish clubs|pg|| mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Glad he has to play it and not me...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Interesting, at the other table Ames just bid to 7@S!|pg|| nt|poohbear: then the 3rd possible line is to cross to dummy in trumps and take a heart finesse and if that loses to try to guess where the Jack of hearts is|pg|| pc|s4|nt|lrargerich: 7@s is easier than 6 |pg|| nt|poohbear: but most likely to take a ruffing finesse against the jack|pg|| nt|Walddk2: ... and listen to this. Against 7@S East led a heart!|pg|| nt|poohbear: NOW thats a strange lead|pg|| nt|lrargerich: The lead wasn't important with clubs 3-3 declarer makes 5@s, 4@c, 3@d and 1@h=13|pg|| nt|poohbear: this lead prevents the cross ruff line|pg|| nt|brolucius: The heart lead deserves to lose IMPS (!) |pg|| nt|lrargerich: Against 7 underleading a KJxx is quite strange. I think I never saw such a lead|pg|| nt|poohbear: if the cross ruff line will work then the club establishment line will probably work|pg|| pc|sA|nt|brolucius: The heart lead was into a bid suit. Amazing.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|poohbear: coming down to a heart guess|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|lrargerich: But the line that declarer took in 7@s was also suspicious|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|nt|brolucius: He can ruff a heart and fall back on the club finesse|pg|| pc|h8|pc|sQ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|lrargerich: This is also a very bad line in 6@s|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|lrargerich: If you are going to take a finesse take the club finesse not the heart finesse|pg|| nt|poohbear: why cause it went down?|pg|| pc|sT|nt|lrargerich: Taking the heart finesse after the trump lead is a nonsense|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d3|pg|| nt|lrargerich: because you are out of the crossruff line|pg|| pc|sK|nt|lrargerich: in this line he needs the club finesse so why not take the club finesse FIRST?|pg|| pc|d6|nt|brolucius: It still gives you three chances. It wasn't so bad.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c8|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| nt|lrargerich: He can combine the club finesse, heart finesse/guess and stablishing clubs|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|mc|11|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAQ3H72D74CAQ6543,S72H654DT9853CK72,SKJ965HAQT9DAKQCT,ST84HKJ83DJ62CJ98|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: You may want to see what Tommy Sanders wrote when I sent an e-mail to our commentators a couple of days ago ....|pg|| nt|csimon: the specs just corrected me and confirmed that Narasimhan has 20+|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|Walddk2: Since my wife is playing in that event, and one of her teammates is Sheri (of Sheri and Fred), and this could end 48+ years of marital bliss, please put me down wherever you need ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: me. Oh Lord! How'd I ever get into this? Tommy|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|an|9+ points w/clubs|nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg|| nt|ritong 1: :))|pg|| nt|csimon: Tommy must have told you to give all the commentators a BIG raise :-)))|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|aconterno: :))|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|an|slam interest, balanced|nt|Walddk2: 500% to all of you on the spot! Yes I know, too generous|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: i am back.. this is a reasonable slam hand in spades... I am not wure if 3NT is "Serious 3NT" or an offer to play NT...|pg|| mb|4C|an|cue bid A or K|nt|inquiry: ok.. the alert seems it is serious 3NT looking for slam|pg|| nt|inquiry: I think they will bid slam now|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|nt|aconterno: last dummy entry|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|nt|inquiry: seems overboard here.... more of an imp stab than BAM... |pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: I would have thought south might have bid 4@H, a meckwell invention called last train to clarksville, but blackwood will get them to slam even more directly....|pg|| mb|5N|mb|p|nt|inquiry: If this is GSF, we have to assume 4@C showed ACE not ace or king....|pg|| mb|7S|nt|csimon: grrrr - crashed again|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|nt|inquiry: dummy reversal brings in 13 tricks|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| nt|inquiry: now can ruff two hearts in dummy....|pg|| nt|inquiry: needs just 3-2 trumps.. on this two heart ruff line|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|s3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|sQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|c3|mc|13|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SQHJ3DAKJ985CK987,S84HAKQ872D72CT32,SAJ65HT54DT63CQ65,SKT9732H96DQ4CAJ4|sv|n|nt|poohbear: so seven is cold but 6 goes down:)|pg|| nt|brolucius: The bidding, play and defense seemed OK to me in this room. Madness in the other room!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Fergusson has a problem now|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|brolucius: Well bid. He needed only some help in clubs to give him a play.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: I think Beery had to open this hand|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|brolucius: I agree with you, Luis. When you have six spades there should be no gap between 1@S and 2@S|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Yes, the choice between 1@s and 2@s is a matter of style|pg|| pc|dK|nt|brolucius: Nice play by North, not rising with the spade ace|pg|| nt|poohbear: interesting line|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| nt|lrargerich: but you can't decide a hand with 6 spades is too strong for 2 and too weak for 1|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|brolucius: That looks to be the right (although not successful) defense. Declarer would set up the spades anyway.|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|s2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|d5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SQHJ3DAKJ985CK987,S84HAKQ872D72CT32,SAJ65HT54DT63CQ65,SKT9732H96DQ4CAJ4|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: EW stopped in 3@H at the other table|pg|| nt|swanson: After a forcing 1NT response and a 2@H preference, seems possible to stop at two level.|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Please welcome Prakash K. Paranjape from India|pg|| mb|2S|nt|panja: hi all|pg|| mb|3D|nt|inquiry: That rates to be a 13 imp pick up for Ames... |pg|| nt|inquiry: welcome|pg|| mb|p|nt|csimon: some pairs have no requirements for a single major suit raise|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|nt|aconterno: not a good spot |pg|| nt|ritong 1: weird redouble gets punished, seems|pg|| nt|swanson: Urbanek's redouble cost reaching the spade fit. 1@H seems unattractive, but if you don't this is what can happen.|pg|| pc|h9|nt|Walddk2: You look at a hand like Cohen's. And of all spots opps want to play in 3@D. Then it's your day|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|csimon: unless N/S are playing a @c system, I don't understand the 1@d opener|pg|| pc|hA|nt|vugraph9: Koch and Ames play Precision|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|Walddk2: I would prefer to die in 3NT rather than 3@D I must admit|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|nt|Walddk2: 3NT may even make|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|Walddk2: Also welcome to Mike Hargreaves of Canada, Ben Dickens and John Swanson of USA|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hi guys|pg|| nt|inquiry: hi|pg|| nt|swanson: Happy Thanksgiving from California|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SKT84HQ98765D8CJ5,S72HT4DAQ5CAKQ742,SJ6HAJ32DKJT42CT6,SAQ953HKD9763C983|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|3H|nt|poohbear: 3nt from West would have a chance. though more likely to be bid by East. would be unlucky that the Ace of hearts is " offside":)|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|lrargerich: They should've tried some game being VUL|pg|| pc|hK|nt|poohbear: 4clubs on the other hand has no play. except on that lead perhaps:)|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| nt|brolucius: I can't see any reason to underlead. Unless you want to impress 241 kibitzers|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|poohbear: Bates trying to be clever to get a @D shift. little did he know|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Now we have a contest for the worst lead of the month|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|brolucius: My vote goes to the heart lead against the grand |pg|| nt|lrargerich: Low heart from KJxx against 7@s vs low heart from AJxx against 4@c...|pg|| nt|poohbear: Lead was thoughtful. He felt he needed a @D play before spades got established|pg|| nt|qing: hi|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Please welcome Qing Yang from China|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Yes, maybe it's not really a competition this lead had a plan and was against a partscore|pg|| nt|brolucius: I will remember to use the word 'thoughtful' next time I try a crazy lead.|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I prefer the word "sorry"|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|nt|brolucius: "Sorry, I was too thoughtful there."|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|c9|pc|h5|pg|| nt|brolucius: Anyway, I thought only young guys underled aces.|pg|| nt|poohbear: hmmmm I got the word from " miracles in card play":)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|dT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Who wrote that? :-)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SKT84HQ98765D8CJ5,S72HT4DAQ5CAKQ742,SJ6HAJ32DKJT42CT6,SAQ953HKD9763C983|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Hope you are able to speak now MIke :-)|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikeh: test:))|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: A predictable 3NT, but I have been wrong before|pg|| nt|mikeh: thanks roland:)|pg|| mb|1C|nt|csimon: who would overcall 2@s with the south hand? white vs. red?|pg|| mb|p|nt|aconterno: 3nt is my bet too|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ritong 1: marty bergen, carol|pg|| nt|Walddk2: All juniors I presume, Carol|pg|| nt|mikeh: If I read the bulletin correctly, Ames was the no, 23 seed so they are having a great event|pg|| mb|3C|nt|Walddk2: Maybe even 3@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|csimon: nah - the juniors would bid 3@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: I probably would, but partner best not try the @SK against a notrump contract then. Probably shouldn't as partner doesn't figure to have any high cards.|pg|| mb|p|pc|h7|nt|swanson: It is tough for Reygadas to bid anything other than 3NT, but this will not be happy for declarer.|pg|| nt|inquiry: 3NT by West might make on a diamond lead, but 3NT East has no play on @Hh lead |pg|| nt|panja: if South had A of Hearts, this adventure might have worked|pg|| pc|h4|nt|csimon: led it anyway - should have overcalled to bar the lead :-)|pg|| nt|swanson: On my, what did North think that partner might hold?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h9|nt|swanson: Many players would have tried 1NT with the West hand in 3rd seat. I am not certain of their notrump range, however.|pg|| pc|d5|nt|aconterno: will make a lot|pg|| pc|h3|nt|swanson: Will probably take 12 tricks.|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|inquiry: and 6@s down at the other|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|h2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|inquiry: board 20 hand an odd result, 7@s making at one table, and 6@s down at the other|pg|| nt|swanson: Surely it was 6@C and not 6@S.|pg|| nt|panja: the problem with 1Nt with two suits open is that, if E had Kx of Hearts, it would have wrongsided 3Nt|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SA97532HK84DAK2CA,S84HA73D973C96532,SKQ6HJT952DQTCQJ7,SJTHQ6DJ8654CKT84|sv|b|nt|poohbear: Bates is young by American stds. Under 60|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: David, how many books/articles on bridge did you write? Did you forget the number?|pg|| nt|qing: a slam opportunity here with the @H finesse|pg|| nt|brolucius: Perhaps underleading aces keeps you young. It ages your partner, though.|pg|| mb|1N|an|forcing|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|poohbear: tuff rebid now|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: I have written 73 books on bridge, but I am too modest to say so in public|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 3d is very preemptive . but OK when pard has KQx of spades:)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: hehe :-)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 4spades says I had a limit raise toi begin with.|pg|| nt|qing: and that is preemptive, too|pg|| nt|poohbear: I amsurprised Ferguson passed|pg|| nt|poohbear: true|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I have been in much worse slams, and I mean MUCH|pg|| nt|poohbear: Strong club is so much better for these type hands|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|qing: and i've missed much better slams, too :-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Ferguson explained that Bates showed a bad hand by jumping to 4@S|pg|| pc|s6|nt|poohbear: This is no where close to a Roland slam|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|Walddk2: It's important that you have a partnership understanding here|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|brolucius: He had a bad hand. No reason to bid this slam, just because it happens to make.|pg|| nt|poohbear: well over 30 percent:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: we must be looking at different hands Bro:)|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SA97532HK84DAK2CA,S84HA73D973C96532,SKQ6HJT952DQTCQJ7,SJTHQ6DJ8654CKT84|sv|b|nt|swanson: Hi JoAnn|pg|| nt|mikeh: it was 6@S with a trump lead and an immediate losing @H finesse|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|inquiry: Forcing club....|pg|| mb|1H!|an|5 Hearts 8+|mb|p|nt|aconterno: Hi JoAnn|pg|| nt|Walddk2: What does a nervous hotel room look like? :-)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ritong 1: i wondered as well:)|pg|| nt|truffle: :).....joann's partner kathleen sulgrove is also here|pg|| nt|ritong 1: hello kathleen|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikeh: a lucky slam here: ames seems to be in heat one, so maybe they will bid and make it|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|inquiry: 4@h or 4@S on. A club lead might hond this to 10 trick in @Hs....|pg|| mb|3C|an|cue bid|nt|swanson: Our new players are Ann Labe and Shannon Cappelletti, Vancouver and Hixson (TN).|pg|| nt|csimon: 5@s is quite a position to take...|pg|| nt|truffle: an unfortunate lead by cohen|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Labe may make 12 tricks now|pg|| nt|panja: 6@S is fine, just about 50%|pg|| nt|swanson: I would expect most pairs to bid to 6@S - North does have wasted minor suit values.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|csimon: I am not suggesting that there is a better bid (I don't think there is)|pg|| mb|3N|an|slam interest|nt|inquiry: we know 3NT is serious 3NT slam try from earlier hands|pg|| nt|panja: 3@C seems to be asking in trumps, Gamma, can someone clarify?|pg|| nt|mikeh: north has very soft values but better than expected trump|pg|| nt|inquiry: it was alerted as a cue-bid|pg|| nt|panja: in case it is trump asking North's 3@S would show two honours...........|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: Declarer will do quite well if she draws exactly one trump|pg|| nt|mikeh: maybe 5@S would show this?|pg|| nt|swanson: There are so many variations in the Precision style auctions these days, it's tough to know.|pg|| nt|panja: I would expect South to ask about trumps, Cue bid serves little purpose here|pg|| nt|adolfod: hi all|pg|| nt|mikeh: they may not have the ability to do that after the start they had here|pg|| mb|4C|nt|swanson: Yes, South's first concern regarding slam is trump quality.|pg|| nt|panja: hi|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: I wonder if ames thinks club Queen is a fitting control for his partners clubs?|pg|| nt|inquiry: If ames thinks koch has two black suits and slam interest, he isn't stopping now....|pg|| nt|panja: I get a feeling North is answering something.................|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|panja: good stop..|pg|| nt|mikeh: they never seem to have got around to the main issue. From Koch's point of view, he lacked 5 level safety since he knows they are off the @H Ace|pg|| pc|h2|nt|swanson: That lead will get the play over quickly.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s2|nt|adolfod: if the @h 10 lacks should be a poor slam|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|nt|panja: to answer some specs|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| nt|panja: slam is on @HQ being onside, at best 50%|pg|| nt|panja: further, a stiff heart lead will kill it even when @HQ is inside|pg|| nt|panja: so take away a few% for that|pg|| nt|inquiry: This hand is a chance for the rosenkrantz team to cut into the 35 imp lead... |pg|| nt|swanson: My teammates always thought I was too conservative when partner and I stayed out of a 50% (or so) slam that made.|pg|| nt|panja: and take away a bit more for JTxx of Spades|pg|| nt|mikeh: e-w will breathe a little easier: the way the set has been going, they will feel fortunate that their opps missed this one|pg|| nt|panja: BTW, JTxx of Spades would be about 10% likely|pg|| nt|panja: so I rate the slam to be about 40%|pg|| nt|panja: for other room scores click on movie, and then on open room at top right of the scoresheet|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SJ7HA5DQJ976C8543,SKT2HQJDAK5CAKQT2,SA53H732DT832CJ76,SQ9864HKT9864D4C9|sv|o|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|brolucius: I was referring to the north hand, of course|pg|| mb|2H|an|0-7|nt|poohbear: oh sorry:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|qing: my view is that if 3@D sets up a game force, perhaps there is no point to show a limited raise by jumping to 4@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|an|spades|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|poohbear: misunderstanding here?|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: Maybe 2@h artificial negative?|pg|| nt|qing: pd tends to have concentrated values in the 2 suits, and probably some shape, so some points work better than others|pg|| nt|poohbear: seems to be confusion over the 2h bid|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I think 2@h is artificial negative|pg|| nt|poohbear: that would tend to make the 3h bid a transfer|pg|| nt|qing: knowing the point range does not offer much help|pg|| nt|brolucius: He bid spades (via a transfer), then hearts to offer a choice|pg|| nt|lrargerich: And completing the explanation they should play canape style transfers|pg|| mb|4N|nt|poohbear: ah so he decided to ignore the 5-6 shape|pg|| mb|p|nt|lrargerich: Maybe 4@h is 5-5 or maybe is longer hearts than spades|pg|| nt|poohbear: in the meantime 5 hearts is MUCH better than 5 spades cause no need to guess the Jack of spades|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, good point. They will do well to stop in hearts, though.|pg|| nt|poohbear: unless the defense leads a minor and then plays the other minor after winning the trump play|pg|| nt|qing: but 5@H has the virtual of going down on @S ruff while 5@S can be made|pg|| nt|brolucius: True, too, but they are unlikely to lead a spade.|pg|| nt|lrargerich: This auction looks like a strong club ad :-) "...or this may happen to you"|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: ahhhhh the unexpected:)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|lrargerich: Is this the famous "unusual" 4NT ?|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Or 4NT=RKCB and pass=stop this madness|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|qing: or the "infamous unusual 4NT"|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|brolucius: Perhaps West thinks that East would have given a positive response initially with sufficient controls for a slam. |pg|| nt|poohbear: Declarer can play one round of hearts then switch to spades and make since the Jack of clubs falls|pg|| nt|qing: he needs to guess @S now to make this|pg|| nt|poohbear: he should play clubs first|pg|| nt|poohbear: to see how many tricks he needs|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Am I wrong or he only needs the @sA onside?|pg|| nt|qing: well he always needs 2 @S tricks|pg|| nt|qing: you are right :-)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| nt|brolucius: Kibitzer points out that spade lead would not beat 5@H because declarer can take enough spade discards after North ducks 1st spade|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|qing: actually no.... :-)|pg|| nt|poohbear: Sorry I am told that Egan s first name is Mary . So perhaps my assumption of HE is mistaken:)|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s2|pc|dT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| nt|lrargerich: They lost a couple of wheels in the bidding and one down is a fair result|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|h8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SJ7HA5DQJ976C8543,SKT2HQJDAK5CAKQT2,SA53H732DT832CJ76,SQ9864HKT9864D4C9|sv|o|nt|aconterno: operator cant lead a card in the auction|pg|| nt|swanson: We have an over undo.|pg|| nt|swanson: From the bidding, as mentioned, South evidently found out about the spade honors but couldn't be certain of the heart situation - even the third round of diamonds was a concern.|pg|| nt|panja: true|pg|| nt|adolfod: and the hearts J109 works too|pg|| mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: Reminds me of the new Zia convention|pg|| nt|csimon: tell us Roland|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You open 1NT with 4144 and when partner introduces Stayman, you splinter with 3@H. Great stuff|pg|| nt|truffle: meanwhile in the play this should be 10 tricks for ew|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He did that at a congress in Scotland 2 years ago. That's Zia for you :-)|pg|| mb|p|nt|truffle: 3nt...with the battle for for the overtricks|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|mikeh: in the other room they did not even sniff at the slam: 1@s 1N 3@d 4S|pg|| nt|adolfod: without the 9 two losers are the common result|pg|| mb|2N|nt|truffle: uh oh|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Well done, 3NT is enough|pg|| nt|csimon: wrong person on lead - this won't work|pg|| nt|Walddk2: True|pg|| nt|aconterno: 3nt is 4-4-4-1 with singleton @h :))))|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Let Bjerkan open 3NT please|pg|| nt|csimon: lol :)|pg|| nt|truffle: now labe is declaring|pg|| nt|adolfod: seems a quiet major game in this|pg|| nt|inquiry: 4@h is mubh better than 3NT, but both make|pg|| nt|panja: with Precision bidding, non-slams too are kept in slam focus for some time|pg|| nt|swanson: It shows the advantage of a forcing club - lots of investigation below the slam level.|pg|| mb|3D|nt|Walddk2: oops|pg|| nt|panja: Rosenkranz's choice of opening is interesting|pg|| mb|d|nt|truffle: we missed a pass|pg|| nt|panja: oh, strong Club there too?|pg|| nt|swanson: It was clearly a forcing club because of the response.|pg|| mb|3H|nt|csimon: I think we missed a pass in between|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Adventurous overcall :-)|pg|| nt|aconterno: yes|pg|| nt|panja: is this a US event or China?|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: 3@D was a transfer.|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|adolfod: if not the choice of the 1@d response is almost amazing, lol|pg|| mb|3N|nt|aconterno: undo pls|pg|| nt|swanson: Bjerkan is declaring 3NT.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He will eventually, because our operator will be unable to lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: is anyone commentging on this match?|pg|| nt|panja: good to see prec table in US|pg|| mb|4S|nt|swanson: Note that the major suit hand cannot be certain of an entry to run either major (in notrump_|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikeh: 4@S looks odd|pg|| nt|adolfod: he knows that partner has not 3 hearts, but is he sure that he has 3 spades?|pg|| nt|mikeh: exactly|pg|| nt|panja: once again, prec tell Rosenkranz that Partner is not likely to have 3 of the four missing important cards for his negative 1@D response|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|panja: !AQ, @HAK, E can have at most two|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| nt|swanson: East doesn't know in which suit partner holds the jack.|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mikeh: there is some danger that a standard 2@C opening would get to the 5-level, but keycard would prevent a slam accident and @H plays very well as the cards lie|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s9|nt|inquiry: ok.. welcome Gerbin and me, ben, we will try to comment on these.. bear with us|pg|| nt|gerben42: hi all|pg|| nt|vugraph9: player are taking a break, will be back in a few minutes|pg|| nt|gerben42: looks like some mixup on how strong 2@C was|pg|| nt|panja: perhaps, E should have bid 4@C or 4@D to let West choose|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3S6HQ96DK75432CKQ9,S9854HT543D9CJ532,SKJ3HJ872DAQJCT87,SAQT72HAKDT86CA64|sv|e|nt|brolucius: I think E-W may have known what they were doing in the bidding. West deduced they had insufficient controls. She may have missed the point that entries would be lacking in NT.|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|poohbear: Is that an OPENING BID?:)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Do you really think that 4NT from a 6-5 hand could be passed?|pg|| mb|2D|nt|brolucius: Yes, nice hand, isn't it?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|lrargerich: We don't pass with 12 in the 21st century|pg|| nt|brolucius: Unless there was a special understanding, East had shown only 5-5.|pg|| nt|poohbear: of course 3nt is cold|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|qing: EW has 4@S by deep finesseing trumps, but it's hard to get there after all this event|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|sJ|nt|brolucius: Was 2! by West on the first round too risky? |pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2@S|pg|| nt|poohbear: I like it. What bad can happen?|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|poohbear: you got lots of offense|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| nt|brolucius: Four trumps and a singleton. Perhaps the last board was still in the mind.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d4|nt|qing: lots of offense? maybe you mean compared with defense?|pg|| nt|poohbear: NV she would have bid 3|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| nt|poohbear: So seems like 2 is fair Vulnerable|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c9|nt|poohbear: thats not right is it?|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3S6HQ96DK75432CKQ9,S9854HT543D9CJ532,SKJ3HJ872DAQJCT87,SAQT72HAKDT86CA64|sv|e|nt|truffle: oh, bjerkan make 5....an excellent result for them|pg|| nt|csimon: well 11 tricks was hard to imagine, so E/W must have done very well!|pg|| nt|gerben42: 3NT was bid and made in the other room, a good result for NS|pg|| nt|panja: or, rather, 4@H itself, with 11 in minor|pg|| mb|1D!|an|could be 1|nt|swanson: Yes, 4@C would have been a good call. Parnter knows East doesn't have a strong hand.|pg|| mb|1S|nt|inquiry: 4@S on EW.. after a @S overcall will george bid 3@S preemptive at this vul?|pg|| nt|panja: Note this 1@S bid, very good bid|pg|| mb|2S|nt|truffle: the spade suit might get lost here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2@H all?|pg|| nt|csimon: this is an exciting hand - @s guess and no @h lead for 10 tricks|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikeh: could east have 4=5=0=4? If so, would he transfer of stayman over 2N?|pg|| nt|panja: E had 17 HCP, but only two Hearts, double is not a great option with such a hand|pg|| nt|mikeh: transfer or stayman|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|csimon: I actually agree with 2|pg|| nt|truffle: ah found it|pg|| nt|csimon: @h|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: If you are prepared to bid 3@S next why not|pg|| nt|gerben42: the same bidding as in the other room|pg|| pc|s2|nt|swanson: Not sufficient values in general, but this contract can't be defeated because West cannot get on lead.|pg|| nt|panja: both NS overbid, I think|pg|| nt|inquiry: could be double game swing...|pg|| nt|mikeh: reygadas will be very frustrated if this makes|pg|| pc|s6|nt|swanson: yes, take the plunge|pg|| nt|truffle: 3 clubs was conservative with 5 good trumps, vulnerability notwithstanding|pg|| nt|csimon: I wouldn't consider a neg dbl with such extreme distribution|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But it's like jumping into the pool without knowing if there's water in it, is it not?|pg|| nt|gerben42: although only 24 HCP combined I predict they will push the board|pg|| nt|panja: too many Aces out, but fortunately for them, 3Nt is good|pg|| pc|s8|nt|inquiry: might pick up an imp.... |pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|adolfod: now he plays club and will make it anyhow|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|nt|truffle: needs heart shift now|pg|| nt|aconterno: now @h to make @s Q |pg|| nt|Walddk2: There will be a 5 minute stand down for new boards after this board|pg|| nt|gerben42: now they might, yes|pg|| pc|cK|nt|Walddk2: 2nd stanza in about 10 minutes is our estimate|pg|| nt|swanson: Seems a bit of a shot by South.|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|inquiry: knock out @DAK and @CA... this becomes a show up squeeze perhpas... |pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|aconterno: well done|pg|| pc|dA|nt|mikeh: what is their 1N range here?|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|c7|nt|gerben42: yes if those 3 tricks have been lost the last @D will give west a problem|pg|| nt|adolfod: probably 13 15|pg|| pc|cA|nt|truffle: well done as i believe shannon would have gotten spades right|pg|| pc|c9|nt|swanson: How is that going to help? Declarer knows where the @SA is.|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|mikeh: which makes the 3N even more of a shot:))|pg|| nt|adolfod: and diamonds should be not a real suit|pg|| nt|mikeh: the last hand, the e-w avoided slam, but ended up in 4N, going down |pg|| pc|c4|nt|inquiry: So i thinik this will be an imp to Ames|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d4|nt|aconterno: now raise with ace and @h|pg|| nt|mikeh: we are told that 1N would have been 15-17, so S could hope for as much as 14 hcp, making the 3N less of a gamble|pg|| nt|panja: strong 2@C opening|pg|| pc|s4|nt|csimon: well defended|pg|| nt|aconterno: well done|pg|| nt|swanson: Oops, thought 4H was the contract. Always play in the suit that splits.|pg|| nt|truffle: note shannon did better bidding 4 spades.....3 clubs was slated for 110|pg|| nt|truffle: finiding spades and avoiding game is next to impossible|pg|| nt|csimon: but 4@h is cold|pg|| nt|truffle: if you are going to bid enough to get to game, the spade fit is most likely to come to light|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But don't take anything away from the defence. The heart shift was brilliant!|pg|| nt|swanson: Yes, and it's not too much to ask for the @SQ to be onside (or no uppercut available)|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|gerben42: there it is already|pg|| nt|panja: and E had to show both suits, and thought it fit to ask Aces too, alas, W passed!|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SAQT84HK543DQTCKT,SKJ32HAQDK652CA62,S765HT976DA3CJ875,S9HJ82DJ9874CQ943|sv|b|nt|lrargerich: I like a fancy 2@s showing a bad hand with support, using 2@h for a 8-10 hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|nt|lrargerich: Bates must decide between pass and 2@s|pg|| mb|2S|nt|poohbear: I tend to pass these hands but since I "know " what to lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: He decided the doubleton in diamonds and nothing in spades favoured his side playing the hand|pg|| nt|poohbear: but I can see the argument for 2 spades|pg|| mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|lrargerich: Quite a terrible hand to lead |pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|poohbear: Beery had no good method to compete.|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| nt|qing: perhaps one argument is west will be endplayed on lead|pg|| nt|brolucius: The diamond lead looked best, anyway|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Count me with the unhappy diamond leaders|pg|| nt|poohbear: Declarer will need to establish Hearts by leading twice out of hand and maintaining trump control at the same time. So has to be done before drawing trumps|pg|| nt|brolucius: Deep Finesse says that West will take only the obvious 4 more tricks for a make|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| nt|poohbear: this didnt cost|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c6|nt|lrargerich: And I say the @hA play wasn't really a success|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|s2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|nt|poohbear: declare will need to concede a spade before playing the ace|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SAQT84HK543DQTCKT,SKJ32HAQDK652CA62,S765HT976DA3CJ875,S9HJ82DJ9874CQ943|sv|b|nt|gerben42: too bad we could not watch the squeeze|pg|| nt|inquiry: a double squeeze set up in the ending... anyway.... no way to avoid making 3...|pg|| nt|mikeh: East had shown the shorter @S 1st: I am not sure why|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|inquiry: must have been club lead at rrick one at the other table.. only way to hold to 3|pg|| nt|swanson: The only good thing about the last hand for E-W is that the game was non-vul.|pg|| mb|p|nt|aconterno: hi all|pg|| nt|aconterno: Hi Carol|pg|| nt|ritong 1: hello all :)|pg|| nt|ritong 1: your commentators are carol simon, USA and alfredo conterno, peru|pg|| nt|gerben42: yes a small @C lead|pg|| mb|2S|an|4 trumps|nt|aconterno: Hi Henri|pg|| nt|csimon: hi everyone :)|pg|| nt|ritong 1: we also have ben dickens from USA|pg|| nt|ritong 1: and john swanson|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: Hi.. this is Board a match event. Like a Swiss, each team will compete against the same opponents on the same boards, however, the players follow a movement resembling the Mitchell ...|pg|| nt|inquiry: movement used in pair games. |pg|| nt|inquiry: tI gues I would bid 3@H here as soutuh...|pg|| nt|mikeh: ns bought it for 3@D on that last hand, in other room|pg|| nt|adolfod: precision and 15 17 NT, is it correct?|pg|| nt|swanson: A 1NT overcall appears normal (and necessary, in general) for West.|pg|| mb|p|nt|csimon: I believe the team names are reversed - Bjerkan & Cohen are on the Westheimer team|pg|| mb|p|nt|gerben42: at the other table South after the same start chose 3NT right away|pg|| nt|panja: good pass, again, by Koch even though 2@S is supposed to show 4 spades|pg|| nt|panja: his values are scattered, shape uninspiring|pg|| nt|mikeh: tough to stay off the @D lead here|pg|| nt|panja: W is endplayed at trick 1!!!!|pg|| nt|swanson: Something is wrong about the bidding or explaination - North would not show 4 trumps with such a pitiful hand.|pg|| nt|mikeh: agreed: 2@S showing 4 invites partner to bid, and he definitely does not want that|pg|| nt|panja: @CA would be a good lead|pg|| nt|adolfod: nobody votes for a reopening bid with Reygadas hand?|pg|| nt|panja: or, when in doubt, trump!!|pg|| pc|cA|nt|panja: excellent lead and thinking|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|swanson: hi all. Are the current standings available?|pg|| nt|inquiry: Thus, an East/West pair will play three boards against one opponent, then move on to take on another opponent. Their teammates, sitting North/South, will play the same boards ...|pg|| nt|inquiry: against the opponent’s East/West teammates.|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| nt|gerben42: I like this auction better|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|nt|gerben42: now if declarer is careful he might make it|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ritong 1: i cannot sware, john|pg|| nt|ritong 1: we have to ask our operator, i guess|pg|| nt|inquiry: odd hand, play on diamonds and make, play on hearts and go down|pg|| nt|panja: Spade would have been fine here, but if North had Qxx of Spades, it would have been bad|pg|| pc|sA|nt|gerben42: well there is the diamond|pg|| nt|inquiry: great decision here.... |pg|| nt|gerben42: and fast too!|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|gerben42: now @DQ drops and all the contract rolls in|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mikeh: South's turn to be endplayed|pg|| pc|sK|nt|inquiry: 5@C, 1@S, 2@D, 1@H.. without risking heart hook... |pg|| nt|gerben42: a heart shift by Chambers would have endangered the contract again though|pg|| nt|inquiry: chambers does well to return a heart and put declare to the test|pg|| nt|gerben42: the @S position is still blocked|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d4|pg|| nt|gerben42: well done|pg|| nt|swanson: This is a very good lead by George. He knows he would be lucky to find partner with a high honor in diamonds.|pg|| nt|mikeh: and he also makes a good choice|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c9|nt|gerben42: now 2 more @S and a @h|pg|| nt|panja: and thanks to the good lead, W can get out easily every time hereafter|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h6|nt|gerben42: puts declarer for the decision|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|panja: now last problem cash everything, get out with a trump|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| nt|adolfod: I think that if east reopens the bidding NS should go to 3 doubled spades -500 with the same defense|pg|| nt|swanson: It seems a bad idea for declarer to relinquish spade control so early with three possible heart losers.|pg|| nt|swanson: Not overcalling 1NT has worked well for Rosenkranz on this board.|pg|| nt|mikeh: George swung low on this one, by passing 1@S, and then looks to be following it up by excellent judgment to earn his team 5 much needed imps: not bad for a old guy:))|pg|| nt|adolfod: and could work better|pg|| nt|swanson: But there is no way he would reenter the auction over the single raise.|pg|| nt|panja: In the other room, a Diamond was led|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|gerben42: 12 IMPs for Ames|pg|| nt|panja: this is a sadistic discard... I dont like it|pg|| nt|swanson: The Ames team defeated Onstott in the previous round. John Onstott was on the winning Senior Team at the just concluded International tournament in Istanbul.|pg|| pc|dK|nt|panja: is it because all of East's Diamond spots are high?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| nt|panja: what a shame, excellent work ruined because of that last discard stimulus |pg|| nt|swanson: The Rosenkranz team defeated a very tought team captained by Hall-of-Famer Fred Hamilton.|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SK942HAT2DJ832CA4,S865HJ54DQ94CQ832,SAJ3HK76DAKT7CT65,SQT7HQ983D65CKJ97|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|brolucius: Thank goodness for inverted raises!|pg|| nt|lrargerich: 5@d or 3NT for NS here|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|brolucius: 2NT shows both majors stopped and a flat hand (normally)|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: North appears to have a tricky bid now, with no club stopper|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|lrargerich: With 15 North can afford to bid 3NT without a club stopper|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d2|nt|poohbear: is it possible to go down in 3nt by playing @D off the top?|pg|| nt|brolucius: He did not like the look of having to make 11 tricks, so bid 3NT anyway|pg|| nt|poohbear: and falling back on spades?|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Declarer must have reasoned from the lead that clubs were 4-4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|poohbear: hmmmmm:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: In the other match...Colchimaro 48 Bennet 31|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I guess everything is wrong|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h9|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg|| nt|qing: if E really has to switch, @H9 might be a stronger candidate than low @D|pg|| nt|poohbear: I agree. |pg|| nt|brolucius: I thought my computer had gone wrong. East switched to a DIAMOND?!|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h8|nt|lrargerich: Maybe just a transcription error, every single card played is strange|pg|| pc|s2|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|qing: and it's getting stranger and stranger|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s4|nt|poohbear: seems the vugraph operator missed a trick so we will get a result in a second|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Down one is quite impossible|pg|| nt|brolucius: The VG operators do a difficult job very well. It would make me dizzy after 20 minutes.|pg|| nt|poohbear: These people work very hard under trying conditions|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SK942HAT2DJ832CA4,S865HJ54DQ94CQ832,SAJ3HK76DAKT7CT65,SQT7HQ983D65CKJ97|sv|o|nt|aconterno: nice hands tonight|pg|| nt|csimon: the great shuffler has been working overtime!|pg|| nt|inquiry: Most people consider Board-a-Match Teams to be the toughest type of event in tournament bridge. |pg|| nt|inquiry: very nicely played by ames|pg|| nt|gerben42: as 12 has not been played yet they can still avoid that board from being cancelled as well assuming they were switched|pg|| mb|1D|nt|inquiry: now we are back to the real 11... it seems|pg|| mb|p|nt|aconterno: all overtricks count in this format|pg|| nt|gerben42: yes|pg|| nt|gerben42: that looks more like it|pg|| mb|3N|nt|aconterno: u get 1 point for winning a board|pg|| nt|gerben42: correct as well as even if the @H hook works you still need another trick|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: Cohen is wondering (a) where are the clubs (b) what is all this bidding.|pg|| nt|inquiry: Right. This makes Board-A-Match is very demanding because EVERY board is equally important. There is no hand you can relax on.|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: Vulnerable they would bid game for sure, not vulenrable, they have to push a little to match the resullt in the open room|pg|| mb|p|nt|gerben42: forcing NT by north who will now invite|pg|| nt|inquiry: The club bid improved north's hand|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|nt|csimon: Bjerkan shows us just how little is needed to try to sabotage the opponents auction!|pg|| nt|aconterno: a lot of points in this deck|pg|| nt|inquiry: some one else will have to example the bidding here to me... |pg|| nt|gerben42: sure that is a strong @C|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|swanson: Linda Lewis in the North is likely to bid again even after the double. She does |pg|| nt|swanson: not have a defensive hand.|pg|| nt|aconterno: but what 5@c or 5@h?|pg|| nt|csimon: I think Lewis has a very difficult decision here at the equal vulnerability|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|gerben42: maybe it's the other way around|pg|| nt|inquiry: nicely done... to carry on to game. Not vul, there was a chance koch would pass, but he didn't think long|pg|| nt|swanson: Tony Ames and John Koch are from Minneapolis. Rod Beery and Mary Egan at the other table are from Lincoln, Nebraska.|pg|| pc|d2|nt|csimon: this contract has very few losers on top, but lots of handling problems|pg|| nt|gerben42: but still a bit light for strong @C|pg|| nt|inquiry: As we said last time this hand was up (hehehe), if EW push hearts it will make five. On this lead, Rosenkrantz team will pick up one imp|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|mikeh: The @D K was an effort to beat it two tricks... but was it worth the risk?|pg|| pc|s3|nt|gerben42: must be other way around Koch does not have a pass|pg|| nt|inquiry: this doesn't seem right to me... nor does diamond king look normal.. I think we are upsdie down wth a low diamond lead.....|pg|| nt|gerben42: audience says this bidding is board 12|pg|| nt|gerben42: operator are they playing 12?|pg|| nt|gerben42: on 12 Chambers will have a natural @DK lead|pg|| nt|inquiry: Five spades, 4 clubs and a diamond is 10 tricks. If EW start hearts it is possible to set up long heart for an 11th.. here he will win 10, but lose 8 imps|pg|| nt|gerben42: they are in fact playing 11 but the cards from 12 are in board 11!|pg|| nt|gerben42: remember these cards we might see them on the next board...|pg|| pc|s7|nt|aconterno: a lot to do in this hand|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|nt|swanson: A trump lead would have been better, but I only see 9 tricks for declarer.|pg|| nt|csimon: 9 tricks are easy, but hard to find a 10th|pg|| nt|inquiry: The play is Queen ACE of spades and then three round on clubs.. I think|pg|| pc|dT|nt|aconterno: @s 2-2 helps|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c7|nt|jjsb2: hello everyone , ben , gerben do we have some good action so far ? :) |pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|gerben42: hi sylvain|pg|| nt|swanson: George had done so well on the earlier defense, it seems a shame to speculate at that point.|pg|| pc|d7|nt|gerben42: well we had some excitement as we already played this board but then realized we didn't|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|aconterno: end played?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|swanson: South is endplayed for the tenth.|pg|| nt|csimon: there's 10!|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|nt|gerben42: only 10 tricks here so an overtrick swing|pg|| nt|jjsb2: so we are going to a 4@s just made and 1IMp for rosenkranz |pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s9|nt|swanson: A club return by Reygadas would have removed the entry to the long spade.|pg|| nt|adolfod: George knows declarer s shape, he has only 2 diamonds, no need of a K of @d lead|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S5H98DQ96CAQT9763,SQJ2HAQ63DT532CJ2,S6HKJT52DAKJCK854,SAKT98743H74D874C|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|4S|nt|brolucius: Doesn one is not impossible, as Barry pointed out.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Down one...|pg|| mb|5C|nt|poohbear: operator says that is the result|pg|| mb|5S|mb|6C|mb|6S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|lrargerich: 6@s is a bad sacrifice against a slam that was missing 2 aces|pg|| nt|poohbear: Beery is not supposed to bid again in front of pard especially since he has nothing out of the ordinary|pg|| nt|qing: but from E's point view, this insurance plan looks fairly attractive|pg|| nt|brolucius: Brave effort by Bates that deserved its success. East could hardly risk defending.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I think East has a clear use of negative slam doubles|pg|| nt|lrargerich: In whatever flavour they use|pg|| nt|brolucius: East cannot expect to score a spade trick|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|nt|qing: the @S can easily be 2-0 and 6@C wld be cold|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c5|nt|poohbear: If east is right he saves 13 imps and if he is wrong he loses 11 . hardly seems to be the right odds|pg|| pc|d4|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| nt|brolucius: Spades are quite likely to be 2-0 (or 1-0, from East's point of view)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S5H98DQ96CAQT9763,SQJ2HAQ63DT532CJ2,S6HKJT52DAKJCK854,SAKT98743H74D874C|sv|n|nt|aconterno: 4@s easy NS|pg|| nt|mikeh: if partner had the @DQ, the !K allows george to score his small @S|pg|| nt|mikeh: @DK|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: George Rosencranz and Miguel Reygadas have been Mexico's leading pair for about 30 years or so.|pg|| mb|1H|mb|4S|nt|aconterno: but remember she will try to play for the maximum tricks|pg|| mb|5C|mb|5S|nt|swanson: Dangerous for Kock to bid, but passing risks a double game swing.|pg|| nt|mikeh: 51C will hit gold, unless North raises, as he might well do|pg|| nt|panja: Unilateral 5@C, could be very wrong, not here though|pg|| mb|6C|mb|6S|nt|csimon: sorry - little computer crash|pg|| nt|adolfod: 6 @c?|pg|| mb|d|nt|ritong 1: wlc back|pg|| nt|csimon: thx Henri @h|pg|| nt|aconterno: that gives an overtrick|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|panja: that is ok, I think|pg|| nt|mikeh: I don't see how not to bid 6@C:)) And as the result shows, at this vulnerability, you have an extra way to win|pg|| nt|swanson: Difficult for Reygadas to meekly pass 6@C. Lots of offense, looks like possibly no defense.|pg|| nt|panja: in these big fit situations, insurance bid|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|swanson: Normal lead, should be duplicated.|pg|| pc|s4|nt|aconterno: and will try @s finesse for the 12th|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|adolfod: of course, the setting trick is the Ace of a 11 cards suit|pg|| nt|panja: Out of the 5+ level bids, let us vote for the worst one..................my vote to 5@S|pg|| nt|swanson: I like a forcing pass by Ames over 5@S, but I don't know their agreements.|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SAJT7HQJT73D9543C,SK863HK42DQ8CQT32,S4H965DKT2CJ97654,SQ952HA8DAJ76CAK8|sv|b|nt|lrargerich: If spades are 2-0 they may have 7@c so letting them in 6 may be an average decision|pg|| nt|brolucius: I have a great record in high-level judgement, when commentating. Less good at the table, unfortunately.|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Over 6@c East should pass showing 0/1 defensive tricks|pg|| nt|poohbear: :)|pg|| nt|qing: :-)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|lrargerich: operator tells me Beery apologized for 6@s since he was bidding 7@s over 7@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: After east passes 6@c showing 0/1 tricks West reopens with dbl with 1 trick|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, it would be poor tactics to raise hearts on x-x-x|pg|| mb|2N|nt|qing: in the other room the bids are exactly identical|pg|| nt|lrargerich: And now east can take a view and pass hoping the @sA runs or they have 7@c (double chance)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|brolucius: Presumably the initial neg-double did not promise spades, or East would have raised to some level straight away.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|nt|poohbear: perhaps was looking for choice of games|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c6|nt|qing: perhaps that's why companies like prudential are prospering, ppl do like insurances|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| nt|poohbear: going down now|pg|| nt|poohbear: no place to put the 4th club|pg|| pc|c2|nt|poohbear: curse of scotland( 9 of @d) prevents a squeeze on north|pg|| nt|lrargerich: He can finesse in clubs the problem is that South will make 2 trumps and a heart|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|c5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|poohbear: if the 9 of @d was switched for a small one there would be a squeeze|pg|| nt|brolucius: Nothing much to think about at this late stage, I would have thought|pg|| nt|qing: team Ames has been a surprise of this event, they came to this event seeded 23, and now are in the semi|pg|| nt|qing: his only chance now is if Bates has KT9 of @D|pg|| nt|brolucius: He might at least play the ace of clubs before thinking|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d2|nt|lrargerich: Beery strange play|pg|| pc|dA|nt|poohbear: guess he wanted to go down only 1|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SAJT7HQJT73D9543C,SK863HK42DQ8CQT32,S4H965DKT2CJ97654,SQ952HA8DAJ76CAK8|sv|b|nt|swanson: Looking down the list of teams there are no soft spots. After the first day only 5 board separated top to bottom qualifiers.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Cheri Bjerkan is on the BBO commentator panel, a very capable one as well as a fine player|pg|| nt|swanson: And that does no include the reduction for the carry over.|pg|| nt|gerben42: okay we go to 13 now and let them sort out the confusion with 11 and 12|pg|| nt|rbeye2: Kevin?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|swanson: Edith Freilich is a long time top player, as is her partner June Deutsch.|pg|| mb|d|nt|gerben42: another strong @C auction|pg|| nt|swanson: I have no objection to 5@S. He expects 5@C to come home.|pg|| nt|adolfod: another shot for Ames, they led club in the 3 nt hand and eventually the contract was set|pg|| mb|p|nt|csimon: Edith is a fantastic lady and still plays a sharp game in her 80's|pg|| mb|2S|nt|gerben42: 1NT shows a GF balanced hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: The Jxx of trumps is enough for Freilich to bid game.|pg|| nt|gerben42: 1NT shows 8-13 HCP |pg|| mb|4S|nt|swanson: Deutsch missed a good chance there to show the few values she holds.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Some would open 2@C I suppose. After all it's a 3 loser hand|pg|| nt|gerben42: now you can walk your dog|pg|| nt|inquiry: 11 trcfrom north, 11 tricks fairly on this layout. 3@C+4@D+3@S+1H, heart lead can't hurt here....|pg|| mb|p|nt|gerben42: the confusion before might have been the cause of a duplication error|pg|| nt|gerben42: this would normally lead to a cancelled board as although the same cards were held at both tables, dealer and vuln. were different so it was a different board|pg|| nt|mikeh: I like both 5 level bids|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|aconterno: she already pass, so 2@s bid was not bad|pg|| nt|swanson: 2@S seems an underbid here and 4@S an overbid.|pg|| nt|adolfod: so do I|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s2|nt|swanson: Edith knows that a good partner will have the @SJ.|pg|| pc|s7|nt|Walddk2: In that case she wouldn't have opened 1@S John :-)|pg|| nt|swanson: Had to squeeze out the preference.|pg|| nt|swanson: I don't see any better play than to bang out the trumps and hope that one of the black suits split.|pg|| pc|sK|nt|swanson: Or the singleton trump king.|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|aconterno: and she will be happy that succed|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|Walddk2: We all know the feeling. Opponents stopped in 1@S and moments later they are in a game that makes. Charming game bridge is|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| nt|panja: S should have take out trumps|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|swanson: Most partnerships respond to a one-level negative double as if partner had bid the suit. Thus Reygadas made a single raise.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|dT|pg|| nt|mikeh: would not have done any good: after a low @D to the Q, can they stop 10 tricks?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|c6|pc|s5|pg|| nt|panja: Decl has two Spades, 2 Hearts, 2 Diamonds and 3 Clubs for sure|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|panja: he might not get the 10th in some cases|pg|| nt|panja: but without removing trumps, he has sure 10|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SKQ986HQ4DAJ7CJT6,S52HAT83DT53C8742,SAT3HKJ752DKQ2CA9,SJ74H96D9864CKQ53|sv|o|nt|brolucius: Took a long time to come up with that diamond play!|pg|| nt|poohbear: assumed perhaps that with a singleton spade and a king that North would have raised hearts|pg|| nt|lrargerich: North had Ktx of diamonds he only needed Kt9 very close...|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|lrargerich: 6@s without a club lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|brolucius: South had a few good cards and might have cue-bid 4@D, having already limited the hand to 12-14.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|sT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SKQ986HQ4DAJ7CJT6,S52HAT83DT53C8742,SAT3HKJ752DKQ2CA9,SJ74H96D9864CKQ53|sv|o|nt|swanson: And West had some game hopes herself.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Interesting 4@H here (if they get that high). It depends on a restricted choice guess|pg|| nt|swanson: This is a close 4@H game which comes hope with a trump split and the percentage third round finesse in spades.|pg|| nt|swanson: (home)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|jjsb2: i believe the contract here migth be the same as other table |pg|| nt|swanson: Once the diamond finesse was on, he could afford three trump losers - just don't play a second round.|pg|| mb|p|nt|jjsb2: that means 4@h |pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: One of us must explain the principle of restricted choice I suppose. John is the man for that job :-)|pg|| nt|csimon: but a very skinny game that won't be easy to bid|pg|| nt|swanson: An agressive 1NT overcall would get NS to game. I like it better than that flimsy suit overcall.|pg|| nt|jjsb2: anyone for opening the east's hand ? |pg|| nt|gerben42: okay news about the duplication error|pg|| nt|mikeh: I think that if s clears trump and declarer plays @D to Q, a @D by North might beat it, otherwise I think a double squeeze may arise, but I have not thought it all the way|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|csimon: this is likely to end the auction|pg|| nt|gerben42: board 12 will be cancelled as I predicted and a substitute board will be played at both tables|pg|| nt|jjsb2: 3@c is fitted and should be max of the passed hand |pg|| nt|jjsb2: not that it's nto necesserely showing a @c shortness IMO |pg|| nt|swanson: In any event, that will be another 12 IMP in the Ames bucket.|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|csimon: yes, a 1nt overcall is probably well-suited to BAM, but would you do it at imps, John?|pg|| mb|4H|nt|jjsb2: i'm nto sure koch will have courage to pass that... |pg|| nt|jjsb2: well |pg|| nt|jjsb2: :) |pg|| nt|gerben42: for me neither, simply maximum pass and fit|pg|| mb|p|nt|gerben42: that's a big view|pg|| nt|inquiry: 3@H is probably principleof fast arrival over the double, showing a weak hand.. passing 3@Cx to iinvite...|pg|| nt|gerben42: but don't argue with success|pg|| nt|swanson: 3@S allows Koch to show interest in slam. He thought he did - but he shouldn't have.|pg|| mb|4N|nt|jjsb2: i have been told 9 cards and singleton should finish to game , here exemple to show it's not automatic |pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: In this case, the restricted choice means that it is more likely that West holds the doubleton Jx or 10x of spades that the J10x.|pg|| nt|jjsb2: good point ben |pg|| nt|inquiry: no... devaluate teh club king, norht is very minimumum... so minimum 3@H has to be right|pg|| nt|jjsb2: in any case u're loosing 2@d a @c and a @s on that lead as far as i can see |pg|| nt|mikeh: depends on the lead|pg|| nt|adolfod: a club lead is needed against 6 spades|pg|| nt|swanson: Rosenkranz will have to find a club to defeat it.|pg|| mb|5D|nt|panja: if they reach 6@S, W will have to find @C lead, how likely is that?|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: five more imps for Ames... it seems|pg|| nt|panja: I think he will lead shorter minor, Diamond|pg|| nt|adolfod: me too|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jjsb2: schermer is trying to picture the lead after it migth come of different holding ...|pg|| pc|cK|nt|csimon: Cohen sure did a lot of bidding on this hand!|pg|| nt|swanson: I don't think I would overcall 1NT in any form of scoring - just that it would have worked.|pg|| nt|adolfod: and this contract will go dawn|pg|| nt|panja: oh, now 1 down, low aim is crime!|pg|| nt|mikeh: this does not look right|pg|| nt|adolfod: the four hearts bidding created this scenary|pg|| pc|c6|nt|swanson: This is the first misstep by Ames-Kock that we have seen. We don't know what 5@D showed.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| nt|jjsb2: now the end is very trivial |pg|| pc|h2|nt|swanson: Cohen has stolen the pot.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|jjsb2: with that ace of @c |pg|| nt|jjsb2: note that over return would realyl bother declarer but ...|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| nt|panja: 5@D must be Ace answer|pg|| pc|d9|nt|Walddk2: If the jack and 10 are treated as equals a player holding J10x has a choice when following to the second round. With Jx or 10x she has a restricted choice. The principle of ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: restricted choice was introduced by the late Terence Reese of England|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|jjsb2: and 5 for ames team |pg|| nt|gerben42: Ames is slowly pulling away from pre-match favorites Rosenkranz|pg|| nt|rbeye2: The Ames team is a huge underdog in this match, as they were yesterday|pg|| nt|jjsb2: players on a little break i have been told |pg|| nt|rbeye2: Mary Egan and Rod Beery, at the other table, are from Omaho Nebraska|pg|| nt|rbeye2: They play all over the Midwest US|pg|| nt|jjsb2: hello richard ! |pg|| nt|rbeye2: Mary has played in a Reisinger final a decade ago, Rod has not had much national exposure.|pg|| nt|rbeye2: Both are good solid players with a nice partnership|pg|| nt|rbeye2: Tony Ames and John Koch are from the Minneapolis area.|pg|| nt|rbeye2: Tony is a part-time Tournament Director|pg|| nt|rbeye2: Both keep their play pretty localized to the upper Midwest of the US|pg|| nt|rbeye2: Another example of 'no good deed goes unpunished'|pg|| nt|jjsb2: i have been told player are now playing the new board 12 and final result will be entered when they finish |pg|| nt|jjsb2: let me take that time to thanks our operator here ! it's a very hard task to do i can tell ... thanks a lot Susan ! great Job |pg|| nt|gerben42: actually today our operators here are Jeanne and Kevin|pg|| nt|gerben42: but I agree, great job!|pg|| nt|jjsb2: sorry.... |pg|| nt|jjsb2: thanks for correcting gerben |pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|mikeh: true: it is onconsistent with any form of keycard... unless he thought @H were trump and he ought not to show the @SK|pg|| nt|swanson: Kock answered as if hearts was the agreed suit (if showing 1 keycard)|pg|| nt|panja: but this is a tricky problem here, if South cue-bid 4@D on 3@S, Club lead would have been automatic|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1S532HAJT94DT86CK5,SKJ87H762DCQT9632,ST9H5DAQJ932CJ874,SAQ64HKQ83DK754CA|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|qing: this is a much needed 11imps for the rosenkranz team|pg|| mb|2D|mb|d|mb|2H|nt|lrargerich: 5@h was a terrible accident in the closed room|pg|| nt|brolucius: Cost-nothing 2@H on the way to 3@D|pg|| mb|3C|nt|lrargerich: 2@h lead-directing, aka fit-non-jump|pg|| nt|poohbear: except it let clubs incheaply|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: He is unlikely to hold SIX hearts since he did not open with a weak two|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: of course on this hand.....:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|lrargerich: It also allows a cheap 2@s bid so the merit of 2@h is in doubt |pg|| pc|d6|nt|brolucius: The whole point of 2@H is to direct North's lead against West's black-suit contract.|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Egan might have doubled with 4@s here, spades are more important than clubs|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Or ignoring the 2@h bid directly bid 2@s|pg|| nt|poohbear: Not saying I wouldnt do it David . Just saying there is a cost to it|pg|| pc|c2|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|poohbear: It actually worked well By keeping them out of spades|pg|| pc|d2|nt|brolucius: You can't really expect to shut out a black-suit fit anyway, so perhaps a good idea to get the right lead. (Mind you, having said that... E-W did miss their fit)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|d3|nt|poohbear: they are in 3cl in the other room|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s2|nt|poohbear: down 2 here|pg|| nt|brolucius: I forget the original deal. How would E-W have done in spades?|pg|| nt|qing: there is not much for Beery to work on now|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d9|pg|| nt|poohbear: doesnt seem like they have enuff tricks|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1S532HAJT94DT86CK5,SKJ87H762DCQT9632,ST9H5DAQJ932CJ874,SAQ64HKQ83DK754CA|sv|n|nt|jjsb2: ok so here we are with 15 ! |pg|| nt|jjsb2: looks hard to avoid a game NS would probably be 3nt |pg|| nt|mikeh: many partnerships would treat this a a two suit keycard situation|pg|| nt|swanson: Seems to me that Koch should have retreated to 5@S anyway. He was certain of an 8 card fit.|pg|| nt|mikeh: when two suits bid and raised, count both Kings as aces|pg|| nt|panja: y, that would have been sensible, but a bit too autoractic??|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: I never played against Reese. Would have been fun. Shapiro was playing until recently - might still be playing.|pg|| nt|aconterno: @s will win the partial score?|pg|| nt|gerben42: as they did in the open room|pg|| mb|p|nt|gerben42: another strong @C|pg|| nt|jjsb2: probably uncontested auction note u better not play 4@h |pg|| mb|1C!|an|17+|nt|jjsb2: well 4 @h it will not be |pg|| nt|jjsb2: :) |pg|| nt|gerben42: but maybe still 1@Hx|pg|| nt|gerben42: or 2@Dx|pg|| mb|p|nt|jjsb2: yes we migth have some action now |pg|| nt|gerben42: if NS play negative doubles this would be the time for one|pg|| nt|gerben42: ahh|pg|| nt|gerben42: now that's interesting, harder to catch them now|pg|| nt|gerben42: 1@H showing two suits of the same color|pg|| nt|jjsb2: schermer would like it's black :) but he knows already that he's in trouble |pg|| nt|inquiry: The heart overcall will help with the play in NT... i they don't play 1@Hx.. hard to pass at this vul....|pg|| nt|mikeh: it is important not to overlook fatigue as a factor in these long events|pg|| mb|1D!|an|0-7|nt|csimon: Bjerkan would do well to dbl 2@d|pg|| nt|gerben42: well before they get to 3NT it will be clear that Chambers has the reds and Schermer the blacks|pg|| nt|swanson: N-S have been spectacular until that board. It is so easy to see all the cards and never make a mistake.|pg|| nt|panja: especially relevant in a senior game?|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|gerben42: this will be interesting|pg|| nt|gerben42: the @H spots are good for Chambers|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|inquiry: makes at least 4 tricks.. so rosenkratnz is picking up imps|pg|| nt|mikeh: anyone know how old george rosenkranz is? 86...87?|pg|| mb|p|nt|aconterno: Bj lost her opportunity|pg|| mb|p|nt|panja: I wonder why North didnt preempt in Diamonds|pg|| mb|p|pc|d6|pc|c2|nt|inquiry: this is why it is hard to pass this double at this vul.. .even with a six card suit|pg|| pc|d2|nt|gerben42: in danger to get only 300 now|pg|| nt|inquiry: Any other vulnerabilty, pass is automatic of course|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|h2|nt|csimon: at this vul, west should strive to introduce the black suits|pg|| pc|h5|nt|panja: I mean opening preempt, he might have created many P for EW|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|swanson: Using precision, he doesn't have a weak 2@D bid available, and vulnerability is not good for 3@D.|pg|| nt|adolfod: at least in a senior game|pg|| nt|panja: are they playing classical prec 2@D?|pg|| pc|d8|nt|swanson: This had shows a weakness in a forcing club system. You don't fit a good fit in times on occasion.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|csimon: 3@s dbl would probably be -100|pg|| pc|dK|nt|aconterno: and a good score in this format|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cA|nt|swanson: Not vul West should have come into the auction as you say Carol.|pg|| pc|c5|nt|gerben42: was better to continue @C to force declarer to ruff|pg|| pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: I don't think Boris Shapiro is playing any more unless there's a bridge club in Heaven. Shapiro died almost 2 years ago, aged 93|pg|| nt|inquiry: Looks like sure 4 imps for Rosenkranz....|pg|| nt|gerben42: but a @D to the J will still result in 500 if he plays @C10 next so Ames can get rid of his @S|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|swanson: George Rosencranz was born in Europe (Hungary I believe) in 1916.|pg|| pc|d7|pc|cK|pc|s7|pg|| nt|jjsb2: i think now it's just 300 |pg|| nt|gerben42: now only 300 as Ames has to concede a @S!|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c9|nt|panja: is he 88?|pg|| nt|adolfod: Rosenkranz has a strong negative, perhaps he should bid anything but 3 clubs|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|gerben42: Koch had to take the @D to return a @C so Ames could get rid of his loser|pg|| nt|gerben42: 8 IMPs to Rosenkrantz now|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|cT|pg|| nt|inquiry: surely there are plenty of bridge clubs in heaven... heaven would be heaven without bridge|pg|| nt|swanson: 3@S might have gotten messy with a heart out and a club shift.|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|nt|adolfod: perhaps 3 @d|pg|| nt|adolfod: or double if it shows points|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SAJ4HA82DK4CQJ863,ST652HKJT3DA75C72,S93HQ976DQ632CT95,SKQ87H54DJT98CAK4|sv|e|nt|poohbear: only one sure top trick and 8 trumps so a cross ruff is out|pg|| nt|brolucius: No, very few losers but not many winners|pg|| nt|Walddk2: This is the last board of the match. Thx to our hard working operator on site, our skillful commentators and to you specs for coming. Play will resume at 4:30 pm New York, 10:30 pm ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Paris, in about 2 hours and 10 minutes. Welcome back then|pg|| nt|poohbear: so need to set up clubs|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: its possible I guess|pg|| nt|lrargerich: With the fall of the @cK I think 4@s makes|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: The weak 2@D, which some players scorn, did its job|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: I really wouldn't say that the 2@d opening was the key|pg|| nt|poohbear: TAME BOARD HERE|pg|| pc|c6|nt|poohbear: oops:)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: But it helped EW stay out of spades (2@d=30% EW not bidding spades=70%)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|nt|brolucius: Yes, but it was not so easy for E-W|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I think they don't like spades at all :-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Finally thanks to the American Contract Bridge League and their constant support, and especially to Rick Beye, the ACBL chief tournament director, who has been instrumental in ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: organizing these broadcasts|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Maybe after 4@s was down 1 with the 4-0 break they decided to abandon the suit|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| nt|brolucius: It seems so|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|h2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|brolucius: There should be a law against VuGraph sessions finishing with a 1NT contract|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Walddk2: Thx all, we'll be back in 2 hours and a bit with more live vugraph from Orlando. Bye for now|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I think 4@s was indeed cold|pg|| nt|vugraph9: thx|pg|| nt|lrargerich: on 31|pg|| nt|poohbear: heart lead . Diamond back|pg|| nt|lrargerich: ruff with the 7|pg|| nt|lrargerich: club to the A|pg|| nt|brolucius: How is a double of 2@H played. It would show hearts, wouldn't it?|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Spade to the J|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Club discarding a red card from dummy :-)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: And If south now plays a diamond just discard a heart and you are in control|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Very nice line :-)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Teams have decided to start back at 3:45 New York time (2 hours, 15 min. from now|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SAJ4HA82DK4CQJ863,ST652HKJT3DA75C72,S93HQ976DQ632CT95,SKQ87H54DJT98CAK4|sv|e|nt|truffle: right!|pg|| nt|inquiry: remember this hand when you make low level doubles at this vulnerability.....|pg|| nt|jjsb2: i'm nto sure i said the result of board 12 did i?|pg|| nt|jjsb2: 3@s making 4 |pg|| nt|gerben42: Ames gets another nice hand|pg|| nt|panja: ok, 2@D opening is flannery for NS, we have that info now|pg|| mb|p|nt|inquiry: you need good trumps, not just long trumps....|pg|| nt|gerben42: @HJT97 were very good cards for Chambers|pg|| nt|gerben42: tells you how important those intermediates are|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|gerben42: @HAK432 might look nicer but in fact it isn't|pg|| mb|d|nt|swanson: This round we have Gloria Milder and Gertrude Warshaver.|pg|| mb|r!|an|Hearts|nt|truffle: north south are on a team of four floridians, we continue to see bjerkan team|pg|| nt|swanson: A 1NT overcall by Kock is reasonable, but I like his takeout double.|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jjsb2: so we are again in a strong club where 1@d response is weak |pg|| mb|p|nt|aconterno: can stop now?|pg|| nt|gerben42: 1@S second negative|pg|| nt|swanson: If redouble shows hearts, is a 1@H bid a cuebid.|pg|| nt|mikeh: an aggressive 1@H call when rosenkranz bid @H:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|aconterno: thi will make|pg|| nt|gerben42: 1@S shows some values|pg|| nt|inquiry: i think 1@S here is second negative, maybe 1|pg|| nt|inquiry: mabye 1NT shows @Ss|pg|| nt|gerben42: 1NT sorry shows values|pg|| nt|gerben42: might show @S too|pg|| mb|p|nt|csimon: and it will make the same of tricks as @hs|pg|| nt|aconterno: but 3@h is 140|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|gerben42: hmm okay :)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|inquiry: 2@S now instead of showing support?|pg|| pc|d5|nt|aconterno: in @h will make one more|pg|| nt|gerben42: I would show support|pg|| nt|inquiry: this will let them stop in 3@Hs.|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jjsb2: i dont think 2nt is by schermer |pg|| nt|jjsb2: that will be corrected |pg|| nt|gerben42: yes 2NT by Ames|pg|| nt|inquiry: I think 2NT isn'tright at this vul.. must be north's bid|pg|| pc|dT|nt|inquiry: now 3@H|pg|| nt|inquiry: hmm... maybe 1@H only promises four....|pg|| pc|dK|nt|gerben42: could Ames have 4@H and 5@C for his bidding?|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|mikeh: is this analogous to 1y - dble - 1@H 2@H as natural?|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|truffle: it could have been a lot worse for nt if the diamond ace was wrong|pg|| nt|gerben42: that might explain the problem|pg|| pc|sK|nt|csimon: right - 5 losers|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| nt|gerben42: some 50s will go to the Rosenkranz team|pg|| nt|gerben42: looks like at 3 down for the moment|pg|| nt|inquiry: well.. i think 2@S over 2@C was right, but eventually with support you just have to show it|pg|| pc|cA|nt|truffle: good hand for wolff signoff|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|nt|gerben42: Ben I think Ames has only shown 4@H 5@C|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|swanson: The redouble has resulted in the 1@H bid sort of preempting E-W out of their spade fit.|pg|| pc|d7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sJ|nt|inquiry: k|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Maybe they would get to game using Wolff's sign off once opener shows 3-card support|pg|| pc|sA|nt|gerben42: the surprising duck of @DK cost the 3rd undertrick|pg|| nt|gerben42: next segment in 45 minutes|pg|| nt|gerben42: 19:00 CET, 13:00 EST |pg|| nt|gerben42: thanks all for watching,|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h6|pc|d8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| nt|swanson: Nicely played by Ames. He was able to rely on the opponents bidding.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Next game time is 1630 EST|pg|| nt|panja: thx all|pg|| pg||