vg|12WBO_4_1,Segm_4_17,I,1,20,Morocco,0,Italy,0| rs|3NE-2,5CE=,4SE=,4SE-1,4HW-1,5DE-1,6SW=,4SW+2,3NS+3,3NN+3,3NE+3,5CW=,4SS-1,4SS-1,6HE=,5HE+2,4CS-1,4CS-1,3HS=,4HS-1,4HN=,5CEx-5,4HEx-2,3NN=,3DS=,2SW-3,4NN+1,3DN+2,3NE-4,3CW=,4SN=,4SN=,3NS-2,3SN=,4SE+1,4SE+1,3NW-1,4HN=,4DN-1,4DN-1| pn|Laghrari,Versace,Rerhaye,Lauria,NUNES,BERRADA,FANTONI,HACHIMI|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAJ9432H763D86C74,ST5HAK54DQ74C8652,SK86HJT92DT52CKJ3,SQ7HQ8DAKJ93CAQT9|sv|o|nt|udo: ...|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAJ9432H763D86C74,ST5HAK54DQ74C8652,SK86HJT92DT52CKJ3,SQ7HQ8DAKJ93CAQT9|sv|o|nt|udo: ...|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SQ96H943DQJ94C987,SK843HAJ876DK86CQ,S72HKQ52DA52CK632,SAJT5HTDT73CAJT54|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|adolfod: hi all|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ| mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SA863HKT96DT7CT42,STHAQJ743D9842C96,SKJ754H85DJ5CAJ87,SQ92H2DAKQ63CKQ53|sv|e| mb|p| mb|2H|mb|p| mb|2N|mb|p| mb|3D| mb|p| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s7|pc|c5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c2| pc|c6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SA863HKT96DT7CT42,STHAQJ743D9842C96,SKJ754H85DJ5CAJ87,SQ92H2DAKQ63CKQ53|sv|e| mb|p|mb|2H| mb|p| mb|3D| mb|p| mb|4D| mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h2| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c6| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s9| pc|s6|pc|d4|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c9| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8| pc|d3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s8|pc|h3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|sK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S83H63DKJ9CKQ7543,SAKQT6HAK9D8742C9,S52HQT82DQT653C62,SJ974HJ754DACAJT8|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S!| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p| mb|5C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|r|an|ace|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mareczek: well bid... as usual when Italians are in action|pg|| pc|c6|nt|adolfod: he only needs to ruff three diamonds in dummy, standard play for Versace|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|s6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|s9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|h9|pc|s2|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2S83H63DKJ9CKQ7543,SAKQT6HAK9D8742C9,S52HQT82DQT653C62,SJ974HJ754DACAJT8|sv|b|nt|bbramley: but playing an honor was very unlikely to cost|pg|| mb|1S| mb|p| mb|3D| mb|p| mb|3H| mb|p|mb|4C| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H| mb|p| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p| pc|c6|pc|cA| pc|c3| pc|c9|pg|| pc|dA|nt|chrumchrum: even QJxx only requieres 2 ruffs|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK| pc|s6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|sJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|nt|chrumchrum: just xruff for 12|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|s9|pc|c4|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAT6HAJ6DJ9852CAK,SJ85HQ9872DT7CJ74,SKQ4HKT54DKQ6C963,S9732H3DA43CQT852|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adolfod: now ns can make slam|pg|| nt|mareczek: do you sympathize with 1@h overcall?|pg|| mb|3N|nt|curtis: any 13 cards for Alfredo|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mareczek: it is the usual Lauria-Versace style|pg|| pc|s5|nt|adolfod: no|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|vugraph3: Lauria is thinking but Versace put all cards :)|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAT6HAJ6DJ9852CAK,SJ85HQ9872DT7CJ74,SKQ4HKT54DKQ6C963,S9732H3DA43CQT852|sv|n|nt|udo: good flat board|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The score in that match is 26-11 to Italy after 7 boards|pg|| nt|dburn: Well done everyone. Now another slam...|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: 6@D anyone?|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: Not a great slam|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|dburn: ...though this one needs rather more in the way of luck|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|udo: needs @d break not to bad and @h -guess|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|chrumchrum: ok, next one pls|pg|| nt|bbramley: tough to get excited about J9xxx as a trump suit|pg|| nt|dburn: And no heart ruff if you play in diamonds. Better try 6NT|pg|| nt|udo: right|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|h4|nt|cherilou: 30 balanced point 6NT contracts won't gain you much|pg|| nt|dburn: Declarer here is likely to play West for heart length and make six|pg|| nt|dburn: but West is throwing hearts as nonchalantly as he can to pretend not to have the queen|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|c9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|udo: after 3 rounds of @S complete distribution is known|pg|| nt|udo: @C-lead was for sure from lenght|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|sA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|c8|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S98654H732DJ3CKQ6,SAKQ7HQTDQTCAJT95,S32HKJ654DA62C832,SJTHA98DK98754C74|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p| mb|2H|nt|mareczek: 5@c from closed room was the starnge contract|pg|| nt|mareczek: strange|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|adolfod: ns compete in hearts and ew cant find 3 NT|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: would that be enough for Versace to overcall if he were North?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good morning to Radoslav Radev from Bulgaria|pg|| pc|s5|nt|adolfod: with north cards versace can bid at least twice|pg|| nt|rado: good morning all|pg|| nt|adolfod: hi|pg|| nt|curtis: hey Rado|pg|| nt|vugraph3: zdravei Rado|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| nt|rado: Hola, czesch, hi|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|dT|nt|swanson: it would have been more exciting for declarer with the HK return|pg|| nt|vugraph3: short break|pg|| nt|rado: maybe smoking pause?|pg|| nt|vugraph3: no:)|pg|| nt|vugraph3: Langhrari went out from box|pg|| nt|rado: Morroco pair using natural methods, 5 cards Majors (french influence)|pg|| nt|vugraph3: now Lauria|pg|| nt|swanson: Convention cards for all pairs in the Olympiad matches available at: www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| nt|rado: with 3/5 leads vs suit and 4th vs NT (again 3/5 if in partner's suit)|pg|| nt|swanson: Teams, results and other information available at: http://www.bridgebase.pl/online/online.php|pg|| nt|rado: also at official WBF site: www.bridge.gr|pg|| nt|curtis: Some V-L methods are filtering across the ocean. The Canadian kid superstars, Gavin Wolpert and Vince Demuy use most of their methods. Got to finals of the Spingold in July|pg|| nt|mareczek: also 1@h overcall?|pg|| nt|curtis: lol|pg|| nt|curtis: I should have said CONSTRUCTIVE methods|pg|| nt|vugraph3: we start again|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S98654H732DJ3CKQ6,SAKQ7HQTDQTCAJT95,S32HKJ654DA62C832,SJTHA98DK98754C74|sv|e|nt|chrumchrum: every imp matters ;-)|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: at least that's what Italians say|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|2D|nt|bbramley: no, actually, with this VP scale only SOME imps matter|pg|| nt|dburn: Not really. Only 11 IMPs matter. That is what the VP scale is all about. You just have to guess which 11 they are.|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|bbramley: we have started using continuous VP scales for some events here|pg|| nt|udo: flat board ?|pg|| nt|dburn: And not before time :) They are complicated, but they are much fairer than the current scheme.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: Still, just because the IMP may not matter, that's no reason to stop counting and slop tricks :)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|chrumchrum: duck|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| nt|bbramley: WBF scale is particularly poor, with wide band from 3-8 imps, then smaller bands|pg|| nt|udo: 2 @D ducks will kill the suit , but he can play @C s then|pg|| nt|cherilou: I think the continous imp scale is a GREAT new scoring plus !|pg|| nt|bbramley: looks like he better guess @Ds right or may go down|pg|| nt|dburn: If he runs the @d10, he is not in great shape|pg|| nt|bbramley: must guess very well after ! misguess|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: even if misguesses, still makes it, no entry to long @Hs|pg|| nt|udo: he can duck one @H than ?|pg|| nt|bbramley: @D|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: if he reads the position correctly, no 1@H overcall makes it much harder|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|nt|bbramley: he's decided to go for 1 of 2 clubs onside|pg|| pc|c9|nt|dburn: this will work, because South has both club honours|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|dburn: but the defence has made it hard for Levin here|pg|| nt|udo: one honour right would be enough |pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|dburn: It would be all right if it were accompanied by no more than two small cards|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAJ542HQDJ532CKQJ,SK9HJT976D7CAT932,ST863HADAT984C754,SQ7HK85432DKQ6C86|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|rado: 3@S for N-s here|pg|| nt|rado: and 3@H for E-W|pg|| mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|curtis: suprising stop. I would expect 4S -1|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|nt|adolfod: the duplication in hearts and both diamond honors off side,|pg|| nt|timb: if the norh's red suits were swapped we'd all want to be in 4@S|pg|| nt|swanson: immediate bad news for declarer|pg|| nt|rado: @D lead deleted all chances for elimination play|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|vugraph3: declarer ask for @D|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAJ542HQDJ532CKQJ,SK9HJT976D7CAT932,ST863HADAT984C754,SQ7HK85432DKQ6C86|sv|b|nt|chrumchrum: he defenders are putting lots of pressure there|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|bbramley: in other room, north overcalled 1@H, declarer led @D10 to the king|pg|| mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: good game that goes down|pg|| mb|p|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s3|nt|udo: yes both @D-honours wrong |pg|| pc|s7|nt|cherilou: Other room there too|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: @H now ;-)|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: wont believe they had 11 of them between them|pg|| nt|bbramley: if he leads @H now, then he better lead his @D later when in with @CA|pg|| nt|cherilou: Yes, he could actually get it wrong here|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cQ|nt|bbramley: I think east's play at trick one was suit preference|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|h3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d3|mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SJT8HT76DJT7CAQJ7,SAK952HQ98DK4CT54,S64H53DQ963CK9863,SQ73HAKJ42DA852C2|sv|o|mb|1S|nt|rado: 3@D was 4 cards fit and 11-14 p as per CC|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|adolfod: another slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|curtis: That's the kind of claiming I like - just ask the opponents if you're making|pg|| nt|timb: perfect fir here|pg|| nt|swanson: looks like another slam swing coming up for the Italians|pg|| nt|rado: here 2@H over 1@S is the only not FG |pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|rado: 2@C and 2@D are FG, while 2@H is forcing to 3@H only|pg|| nt|adolfod: they can make 13 tricks in hearts without a club lead, but not in spades|pg|| nt|mareczek: difficult... 26 PC, not great distribution|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|rado: maybe 2NT showing 5332, min hand and later clarifying the @H fit|pg|| nt|swanson: does 2NT have a special meaning; why not raise to 3@H|pg|| nt|adolfod: if they get 6 spades the 13 trick will save an imp|pg|| nt|rado: tried to find in CC, but nothing there|pg|| mb|5C|mb|d|nt|swanson: would 4NT here be double Blackwood?|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: much like their last slam - it's all about singleton facing loe cards|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|adolfod: seven and 11 imps|pg|| nt|curtis: still smoking in the slam department. The IMPs can pile up pretty quick|pg|| nt|swanson: Italy deserves the swing for a well bid hand.|pg|| nt|adolfod: but perhaps he will play safe|pg|| nt|adolfod: and make only 12 tricks|pg|| nt|rado: Welcome to Norberto Bocchi at the audience, he confirmed 2NT 5332 (may have 3@H) and min hand + 5@C cue|pg|| nt|swanson: South's double in both slam sequences was an assist to the opponents.|pg|| nt|swanson: The double gives the next hand two extra bids: pass and redouble|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|rado: 6@H has a litlle more than 60 % chanse with @H 3-2 or 4-1 and @S 3-2 or 4-1 with singleton J or 10 at North|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|rado: ROland would say that good slams are those that are made:-)|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SJT8HT76DJT7CAQJ7,SAK952HQ98DK4CT54,S64H53DQ963CK9863,SQ73HAKJ42DA852C2|sv|o|nt|chrumchrum: these are really hard earned pushes|pg|| mb|1S|nt|chrumchrum: wonder if many pairs bid this slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|bbramley: same play in other room, @H opening lead, @C underlead later|pg|| mb|2H|nt|cherilou: good slam that the other table missed--a chance to gain a bundle|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: And tie the match at 11|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|bbramley: very hard for west to envision slam here|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|cherilou: I wonder if they play serious or nonserios 3NT here to show slam interest?|pg|| mb|p|nt|udo: the singleton @C has to come in the auction to make slam attractive for West|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: not for West, East only could decide|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, if West had volunteered 4@d, East might have donre the rest|pg|| nt|udo: did East enough ?|pg|| nt|bbramley: they play serious 3nt|pg|| nt|dburn: but the trouble with 2/1 is that West had to limit his hand sometime|pg|| mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|Walddk2: If serious 3NT is on, Weinstein might have made a non serious cue bid (4@D). That would have been music to Levin's ears|pg|| nt|dburn: and he might have thought that 4@d would show at least soem extras|pg|| nt|cherilou: when 2 suits are bid and raised it gives the partnership just a little bit of room to get their extras out in the open|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|h8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|udo: perhaps East should bid a minor controll instread of 3 @S , @H will play fine |pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|c6|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S5HQJ5DA87CAJ7632,ST9642HK87DQT2CT8,SQ3HT9632DK65CKQ4,SAKJ87HA4DJ943C95|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|curtis: might be tricky to find hearts|pg|| nt|rado: 3@H for NS and 3@S for EW here|pg|| nt|adolfod: again 3 hearts versus 3 spades|pg|| mb|3S|nt|curtis: 10xxxx will have to introduce them|pg|| nt|rado: 4@H could be made without @D lead or shift|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|rado: nice preemptive 3@s by Versace being in red|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|curtis: There is a new trend in American expert circles to use the responsive double to show 5 of any unbid majors|pg|| nt|rado: many would prefer to have singleton for that bid|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|adolfod: shift to a red suit |pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| nt|swanson: If the double is takout and not "cards", shouldn't South take a shot at 4H?|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|c5|pc|h5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S5HQJ5DA87CAJ7632,ST9642HK87DQT2CT8,SQ3HT9632DK65CKQ4,SAKJ87HA4DJ943C95|sv|e|nt|dburn: At any rate, 11 IMPs to nobody|pg|| mb|p|nt|bbramley: but the double fit is the key to slam|pg|| mb|1S|nt|udo: :)|pg|| mb|2C|nt|udo: East knows it and can take some action in the right direction ?|pg|| mb|3S|nt|dburn: Nobody, by the way, are leading this event by a mile. They have picked up a great many 11 IMP swings already.|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: wonder how high they'll get here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Well, the England Open team seems to get a lot of 11's. Didn't they score a maximum 75 VPs yesterday, David? (David is the England Open coach)|pg|| nt|dburn: They did, but we have already apologised. It was an accident, and it won't happen again.|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: 4@C is defeated by a @H ruff, but might be let through|pg|| mb|p|nt|bbramley: after count spade lead east might get his ruff|pg|| nt|bbramley: much harder now|pg|| nt|udo: 3 @h was a mixed raise ( 6-8 ) in @S |pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: !10 is a strange sort of lead - might be better to try to let partner know how many you've got|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|nt|bbramley: a @D shift would also have worked|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|udo: and 4@C made|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: too late|pg|| pc|hK|nt|dburn: Poor Levin is studiously cashing @sAK in that order to signal for hearts|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|nt|cherilou: they still have 2 chances to shift to@D|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: signalling is good ;-)|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKJHA96543D84CK83,SA84H7DKQT76CJ764,SQT732HQJ8D53CAQT,S965HKT2DAJ92C952|sv|b|nt|curtis: i think so - As Joe Grue would say, That's where the money is|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|adolfod: this seems to be the match for a 3 hearts playing|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adolfod: well done|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|nt|swanson: Not to mention 4AM in California|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKJHA96543D84CK83,SA84H7DKQT76CJ764,SQT732HQJ8D53CAQT,S965HKT2DAJ92C952|sv|b|nt|chrumchrum: what?|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: even @D shift was too late now|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, declarer did still have a spade, two hearts and a diamond to lose|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|bbramley: i bet he claimed making, not down 1|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: why @D? just discard it on @Hs, Q@C entry|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|udo: for me , it was 10 tricks !!|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: must have been a misunderstanding of some kind|pg|| nt|bbramley: in other room lead was @S2 and east shifted to @D at trick 2|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|dburn: I did tell you I was only allowed one sensible comment per day. Sorry :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: ok, flat down 1|pg|| nt|cherilou: should not be a problem setting this contract once Steve led a@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d3|nt|bbramley: ah, i see score corrected on previous board|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|d6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SA9852H4DT982CAK4,SJT743HT75D64C852,SK6HAKJ8632DJ7CT6,SQHQ9DAKQ53CQJ973|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H| mb|2S|nt|swanson: Oops, wasn't dealer|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|curtis: 1S opening looks pretty normal so it may have been frustration at having already missed 2 slams|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|timb: -1100 is an ugly result |pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|rado: Nunes opened 2@S with S hand|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|curtis: It's easy to get caught in a catch-up psyche against the italians after a few bad boards|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| nt|adolfod: south opened 2 spades in the closed room, north bid 3 clubs and east 3 NT, and there begun the doubles till they got 5 clubs|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|h2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SA9852H4DT982CAK4,SJT743HT75D64C852,SK6HAKJ8632DJ7CT6,SQHQ9DAKQ53CQJ973|sv|o|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|chrumchrum: easy 4@H here|pg|| mb|3N|nt|udo: 4 @h best endcontract here , and should be reached without problems|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cherilou: this is a good 4@H contract|pg|| mb|4D|mb|d|nt|bbramley: usa finally scored on previous board when they sold out to 3@D and beat it 2 tricks|pg|| mb|5C|nt|udo: 10 tricks because he will finesse ?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bbramley: yes, finesse|pg|| mb|p|nt|udo: after levin showed the minors he must take the finesse in case @H are 4-0|pg|| nt|bbramley: 4-1|pg|| nt|udo: 4-1|pg|| nt|udo: :)|pg|| nt|bbramley: he'll be nervous when the finesse loses, of course:)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| nt|udo: sure, could be a singleton Queen:))|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|cherilou: It took the USA 10 boards to win an imp--that's a long time, even when the boards are flat. Seems like there's always some over or under trick difference|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: a very even match, almost no swings|pg|| nt|udo: in this moment North may think he is down !|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d3|pc|s9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|h6|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SQ86HKQ3DQCQJT764,SJ42HDK9643CK9532,SAT3HT98DAT852CA8,SK975HAJ76542DJ7C|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|4H|nt|rado: now a misfit hand|pg|| nt|rado: problem bid for SOuth here (dbl would imply 4@S)|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|rado: and North had easy pass with flat distribution and 3 Aces|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|swanson: If you can't double on the South cards, you are playing the wrong system (I know, I have played it.)|pg|| pc|s3|nt|timb: :)|pg|| nt|rado: hi level dbls usually show just "cards"|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|d3|pc|h8|pg|| nt|swanson: That was a silly play with no entries to dummy.|pg|| nt|rado: at the other room Italy made 3NT for 600 with NS cards|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|c2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|adolfod: and here will be down two, 300|pg|| pc|d4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|adolfod: seven imps|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SQ86HKQ3DQCQJT764,SJ42HDK9643CK9532,SAT3HT98DAT852CA8,SK975HAJ76542DJ7C|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2D|nt|chrumchrum: 3nt?|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|dburn: Probably|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|dburn: Not much else to do. really|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: well, that's a helpful lead|pg|| nt|bbramley: difference in style, i'd have bid 4@H at favorable|pg|| nt|bbramley: initially|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c4|nt|bbramley: that would have been down only 2, and 3nt will make|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|udo: i am a 4@H bidder too, 7-4 is always a nice extra-shape|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|nt|dburn: Maybe with the minors the other way round, he'd have risked 4@h|pg|| nt|cherilou: 7-4 hands have so much going for them- I agree with Bart, they deserve that extra level of bidding. Besides the preemp value is worth a lot|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s5|pg|| nt|dburn: But @dJx, plus the rest of his defense and gappy heart suit may have put him off|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|chrumchrum: 4@H was a 10imp swing on the previous board|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|d6|nt|bbramley: levin likes to have a little extra and hope to get doubled|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3ST43HJ8DAKJ9CKJ93,SKQ972H976D8742CT,S65HA543DQT3CA742,SAJ8HKQT2D65CQ865|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1H|an|spades| mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|rado: with this lead 3@D also makable|pg|| nt|adolfod: easy nine tricks|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|dQ|nt|rado: @H lead or @S lead and @H shift would beat it|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|adolfod: only a heart lead put some pressure on declarer|pg|| nt|curtis: would have to take 1st round club finesse|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3ST43HJ8DAKJ9CKJ93,SKQ972H976D8742CT,S65HA543DQT3CA742,SAJ8HKQT2D65CQ865|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|dburn: Assael at the other table may be less cautious (though 1@h also isn't silly)|pg|| nt|udo: everybodys 1 @d ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: mine for sure|pg|| mb|1N|nt|bbramley: not me|pg|| nt|dburn: Nor me|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: got a chance to bid once - bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|dburn: With those clubs, you may not desperately need a diamond lead against a major-suit game|pg|| nt|cherilou: I think 1@D should have a reason, you're not taking up any bidding space from the opps so you either think it's your hand or it's lead directing|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: and if they end up in 3NT, because West has say @dQ10xx, you really don't want a diamond lead which will blow a tempo|pg|| pc|d3|nt|chrumchrum: its not only about leads, its about finding a partscore too, when 2@S gets back to you, might be too late|pg|| pc|d5|nt|bbramley: overcall was right this time, could be double partscore swing|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s3|nt|dburn: Atabey did well to keep all three suits in the game by his takeout double of 1@s|pg|| nt|bbramley: attaboy!|pg|| nt|cherilou: you know sometimes it works- not my style at all. Levin's XX was support, showing 3@S,but even knowing they had 9@S not enough for West to bid again|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| nt|cherilou: why did north's X show 3 suits- I thought it was a standard treatment for it to show the unbid suit,@H's here and @D tolerence|pg|| pc|s4|nt|udo: 9 tricks should be there with a @S-ruff|pg|| nt|dburn: Because Levin's clubs weren't real, clubs was also a suit|pg|| nt|udo: agree cherie , shows @h and @Dssupport usually|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| nt|dburn: by "real", I mean 4+ cards|pg|| nt|dburn: On this occasion, he happened to have real clubs. He won't take a trick in them, because they weren't real enough.|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: go Turkey!|pg|| nt|udo: you can alwaqys correct a club-bid to @D , so @C are not necessary for the X|pg|| nt|dburn: They were what mathematicians call pseudo-real clubs|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|sQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SA92H962DAT76CK92,SQHK853DJ32CT8743,SKJT4HA7DKQ854CJ6,S87653HQJT4D9CAQ5|sv|o|nt|swanson: The play in 2@S at the other table didn't go so well.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|adolfod: three down, seems too much|pg|| mb|1H!|nt|rado: note the 1@C opening by Versace here:-)|pg|| nt|swanson: Is this a bit of fun with a 43 IMP lead?|pg|| mb|2S|nt|rado: again transfers after 1@C and overcall|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|rado: 2@S is cue showing good @D support|pg|| nt|rado: with @D and @S suit behaving it's 10 or 11 tricks at NT|pg|| mb|3D|nt|adolfod: do you agree with the pass of south in second seat?|pg|| nt|swanson: Declarer might well go down in 3NT after taking a "marked" first round spade finesse.|pg|| nt|rado: many agressive players would open even weaker hand than present:-)|pg|| nt|curtis: fortunately he can play safe for 3 spade tricks|pg|| mb|d|nt|swanson: I think only the weak notrump players are safe in opening the SOuth hand.|pg|| mb|3H|nt|rado: note that Lauria has some ambitions vs normal 1@C opening:-)|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|adolfod: ooops|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph3: :)|pg|| nt|swanson: I'm too old for this kind of bidding.|pg|| nt|adolfod: lolllllllllllllll|pg|| nt|vugraph3: :))|pg|| nt|rado: the psych sometimes turns against the psycher|pg|| mb|4H|nt|curtis: won't get hurt too bad|pg|| nt|rado: anyway 4@H is normal sacrifice vs 3NT|pg|| nt|adolfod: but the italians did not find the game in the closed room|pg|| nt|rado: 5@D also makable|pg|| nt|rado: or 4NT|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|adolfod: danger|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: Where's that red card with the X on it?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: the TD stole them|pg|| nt|adolfod: now he can guess wrong the spades|pg|| nt|vugraph3: very long war:)|pg|| nt|curtis: now the 1st round spade finesse comes into play|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| nt|curtis: and goes back out|pg|| nt|swanson: Now the spade safety play is back in order|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|curtis: can't believe Fantoni-Nunes missed game at the other table|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|s6|pg|| nt|swanson: I think that was the right diamond play. More likely 4 in West rather than East|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|hT|pc|d7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c5|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|swanson: Nicely done.|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SA92H962DAT76CK92,SQHK853DJ32CT8743,SKJT4HA7DKQ854CJ6,S87653HQJT4D9CAQ5|sv|o|nt|chrumchrum: imaginary clubs?|pg|| nt|cherilou: Levin's @C were real-or as real as @C's ever get|pg|| nt|dburn: No, no. Then, he would need the square root of some negative clubs|pg|| nt|udo: thin but makeable 3 NT for NS|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: I think both pairs will get there|pg|| nt|bbramley: meanwhile, in closed room fallenius-welland did well to buy the hand and win 1 imp|pg|| nt|udo: ok 25 HCp, no so thin:)|pg|| nt|dburn: They did indeed - that looked a dangerous board for USA|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|dburn: Kolata is not a member of the "two aces and a king is an opening bid" school|pg|| mb|r|nt|chrumchrum: perhaps thought it wasnt worth it in 2nd |pg|| nt|cherilou: his lovely distribution should sway him?|pg|| mb|1H|nt|dburn: Naturally. If partner bids a suit, he has a fit :)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|udo: now NS must decide that 1 @H-stop is enough |pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: Levin may well bid 2@h, and|pg|| nt|udo: ok, 5 @D makes too|pg|| mb|2H| mb|p|nt|dburn: Facing a passed partner, with spades to his left, Atabey may pack it in|pg|| mb|2N|nt|cherilou: he shouldn't pass pard did XX and N has decent hand. See..... now maybe 4@C then game|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|dburn: Turkey have almost never been known to miss a game. They have, of course, been known to go down in one every now and then.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h2|nt|udo: and the ace of @S is great after the 3 @S-bid|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|chrumchrum: apparently '2As, K is an opening bid' school wins on this board|pg|| pc|h6|nt|chrumchrum: 1imp only, but it couldve been worse|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d4|nt|dburn: Not really. But that was a pretty good battlefield effort by all concerned.|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|udo: yes , indeed|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|bbramley: correct @D play, guards against all 4 with west, a live possibility|pg|| pc|h4|nt|dburn: I'd better go and see how England are doing. See you later, I hope :)|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: see you David|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Italy up by 35 IMPs after 18 boards against Morocco = 22-8 VPs|pg|| nt|bbramley: bye, david|pg|| nt|cherilou: bye David|pg|| nt|udo: bye|pg|| nt|cherilou: EW were not in the auction at the other table. Levin certainly made it harder for them with their @H holding|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|bbramley: breathing easier now|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|chrumchrum: 3@Ss, discard a @H, exit with a @H|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|nt|chrumchrum: marks for style ;-)|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|udo: 6,0 _:)|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SK73HK87632D85CQ9,SQ954HQ9DAK9CKT63,SAJ82HAJ5DJ432C54,ST6HT4DQT76CAJ872|sv|n|nt|adolfod: seven imps back|pg|| nt|curtis: today's entertainment|pg|| nt|timb: yes indeed - a great result|pg|| nt|adolfod: good contract in closed room|pg|| nt|vugraph3: next chance for Morocco|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|curtis: must bid at the 1-level with a 6 card suit (IMO)|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: another chance for Morroco to win double part score with 3@H now|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|curtis: wow!|pg|| nt|swanson: But the only way for NS to reasonably get in the auction was a TO double of 1@C|pg|| nt|adolfod: better two down in 3 NT|pg|| nt|curtis: maybe 5|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph3: big crash|pg|| pc|h6|nt|swanson: Did Lauria intend 2NT as a minor suit choice?|pg|| nt|adolfod: i forgot the spades|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|curtis: the auction got away from V-L at some point. Just not sure where|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s6|pc|hK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|swanson: The Moroccans are finally beginning to enjoy the session.|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d9|pc|c5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cT|pc|d2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|swanson: Four spade tricks are available now|pg|| nt|swanson: only 3|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SK73HK87632D85CQ9,SQ954HQ9DAK9CKT63,SAJ82HAJ5DJ432C54,ST6HT4DQT76CAJ872|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: 17 IMPs = 19-11 VPs. 6 boards to go|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|chrumchrum: anybody for 2@H?|pg|| nt|udo: interesting 2 NT in the closed , guess NS can make the first 8 tricks |pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|udo: even 9|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Istanbul.04/Istanbul.htm is the official WBF web site |pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: http://www.bridgebase.pl/online/online.php for lots of information. Program, teams, results, standings, photos, live web cam and vugraph files|pg|| nt|udo: this is a more sensible contract and NS did not come in with their 9 tricks|pg|| nt|bbramley: superior contract, but must guess @Cs to hold loss to 1 imp|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|udo: that speaks for 2@H -opening ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: I'd've opened|pg|| nt|cherilou: As long as he follows that old adage 8 ever/ 9 never|pg|| nt|chrumchrum: partscore battles are much more important at IMPs than commonly thought|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I am not happy with 2@H vul against not with that quit quality|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c9|nt|cherilou: the 7th one does not make up for the missing honors|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|nt|udo: i pass it too, but here it would have been successfull|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SKJTH76DAKQJ92C76,SA73HT82DT75C9432,SQ6542HQ9D84CAKJ8,S98HAKJ543D63CQT5|sv|e|nt|adolfod: seven imps again|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph3: Lauria played very quickly |pg|| nt|rado: one of the variants of xy checkback is 2@C puppet for 2@D and 2NT next puppet to 3@C intending to sign-off|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|curtis: looked like the only reasonable explanation for what happened|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: Versace must not have copied page 2|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: I didn't think he would be able to find a bid on this hand - wrong again.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s2|mc|10|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SKJTH76DAKQJ92C76,SA73HT82DT75C9432,SQ6542HQ9D84CAKJ8,S98HAKJ543D63CQT5|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2D|mb|2N|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SJ652HQ95DAJ6CKT6,SQ43H4DQT9873CQJ3,SAKT87HKJT3D4C942,S9HA8762DK52CA875|sv|o|nt|adolfod: ns can make 4 spades guessing right the trump position|pg|| nt|curtis: I expect Morocco to try 4S. He'd better have his guessing shoes on|pg|| nt|swanson: Not with the @HA lead. |pg|| nt|curtis: Fantoni-Nunes may have opened North hand with 2S, But I thought they had changed their system to allow opening 1 bids with less than 14 points if they have both majors|pg|| nt|rado: they pass edin 1st position|pg|| nt|rado: passed in|pg|| nt|adolfod: fantoni passed the north hand in closed rooon|pg|| nt|adolfod: room|pg|| nt|curtis: maybe Norberto knows|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rado: bidding RDBL with good @S fit leaves much room for Opps to find their fit/sacrifice|pg|| nt|swanson: Is the East hand close to a 2@H overcall rather than double?|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: Dbl seems clear to me with such a raggedy suit and poor hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: non vulnerable might risk 2@H anyway:-)|pg|| nt|curtis: what do you think, John|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|adolfod: strange contract, dont you think?|pg|| nt|swanson: Seems close to me even with the poor suit - again that's where the money is.|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|curtis: very|pg|| nt|rado: declarer has to duck @D 2 times and after that easy @C shift from Lauria for down 2 or more|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|adolfod: but versace is in play|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s6|nt|rado: ops sorry|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| nt|swanson: The only shift to defeat 3NT|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|curtis: Morocco can't afford to let these opportunities slip by. Turning potential +7 into -6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| nt|swanson: But don't you have a bit of sympathy for the Morocco auction?|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s7|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s2|pc|d3|pc|s8|pg|| nt|swanson: Dont need the spade guess after all.|pg|| nt|adolfod: perhaps for Morocco, not for the auction|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SJ652HQ95DAJ6CKT6,SQ43H4DQT9873CQJ3,SAKT87HKJT3D4C942,S9HA8762DK52CA875|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|s3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|s4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S7HA9753D9752CQ85,SAJ84HJ42DAJ4CK42,S2HT86DQT863CA963,SKQT9653HKQDKCJT7|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|rado: now a calm auction to 4@S (or maybe 5@S)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|rado: 2@C is FG with 4+@C or balanced hand|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|timb: the play should be quicker|pg|| mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S7HA9753D9752CQ85,SAJ84HJ42DAJ4CK42,S2HT86DQT863CA963,SKQT9653HKQDKCJT7|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|c7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S94HA972D95CKQ876,SQ86HK63DKQJ2CJT2,SAK732HQJT4DTC953,SJT5H85DA87643CA4|sv|e|nt|rado: closed room finished all 20 boards|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|swanson: Tough to bid this game.|pg|| mb|2S|nt|curtis: cue bid, 2n -3n|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|adolfod: wich game?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: which game? 4@h |pg|| nt|swanson: I meant 4@H North-South|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: they obviously don't care if they go down a few|pg|| nt|adolfod: lolll|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|curtis: funny|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hJ|nt|rado: 4@h made at closed, so another imps for Italy:-)|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| nt|adolfod: eight tricks were not enough for versace|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|d6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s3|pc|d7|pc|s4|pg|| nt|granguru: 9 imps would drive count to 24-6 VP|pg|| nt|granguru: 8 imps same VP count|pg|| nt|adolfod: eight in this board|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S94HA972D95CKQ876,SQ86HK63DKQJ2CJT2,SAK732HQJT4DTC953,SJT5H85DA87643CA4|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|3D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c3|mc|10|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SA3HQT7DAK65CKQ84,ST964HJ8432D82CAJ,S82HK5DJ9743C9732,SKQJ75HA96DQTCT65|sv|b|nt|curtis: should put them in the lead in their group, which I predict they won't relinquish|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S| mb|d|mb|3S| mb|p|nt|granguru: 3@S= 2 down|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|adolfod: in closed room south doubled again|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru: Exactly the same bid as in the other room|pg|| nt|swanson: Turning a plus into a minus|pg|| pc|sK|nt|curtis: this is my point - After 1N overcall you can go quietly without worrying about being stolen from|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SA3HQT7DAK65CKQ84,ST964HJ8432D82CAJ,S82HK5DJ9743C9732,SKQJ75HA96DQTCT65|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c4|mc|9|pg||