vg|Untitled match,Olympiads,I,1,20,Turkey,0,USA,0|
rs|3DE+3,3SSx-3,4SE=,4SE=,3SN-1,2SNx-1,6SW=,6SW=,3NN+3,3NN+2,3NW+2,3NW+2,4SS-1,4SS-1,4HE+2,4HE+2,4CS=,4CS-1,4HS-1,3DE-2,4HN=,3NN-1,3NS+1,3NS+1,3CS=,3DS+1,5DN=,3NN+1,3CW+1,2NW+1,4SN=,4SN=,5DWx-2,3SN+1,4SE+1,4SE+1,3HN+1,3DW-1,3SE-1,3SE-1|
pn|Kolata,Weinstein,Atabey,Levin,Fallenius,Zorlu,Welland,Assael|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SAJ9432H763D86C74,ST5HAK54DQ74C8652,SK86HJT92DT52CKJ3,SQ7HQ8DAKJ93CAQT9|sv|o|nt|udo: ...|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: Welcome all, here we are at the second day of this monster event|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: this looks like an exciting match in group B|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: USA 2nd - Turkey 9th|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning to our commentators: Kamil Gazdecki, Poland, Udo Kasimir, Germany, Cheri Bjerkan, USA, and Bart Bramley, USA|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: its too early to tell yet, but both teams are in strong contention to advance to knock-out stage|pg||
nt|udo: good morning :)|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: Since we have 2 USA commentators today, I'll be a honorary Turkish for this session|pg||
nt|cherilou: have I been ungagged?|pg||
nt|ritong: yes, cheri :) welcome|pg||
nt|bbramley: hi cheri|pg||
nt|udo: hi cheri and bart:)|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: welcome|pg||
nt|cherilou: Yes indeed@Hooray! Do we know which players are in this room?|pg||
nt|cherilou: Bart, great to work with you|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: this is a duel between 5 card majors (USA) and..... 5 card majors (Turkey)|pg||
nt|cherilou: And hello to others-Udo and Kamil|pg||
nt|bbramley: both pairs play "standard", 5-card majors, strong NT|pg||
nt|udo: i printed now CC of levin-weinstein , will try to give some system informations during the bidding|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: Hi there|pg||
nt|udo: hi:)|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: Americans are using Flannery, not the most popular opener in the tournament scene|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: Turkish - 2@D is both majors|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|dburn: One would have expected 2@s, but perhaps that would be intermediate|pg||
nt|bbramley: tough hand for E/W - they have 27 HCP but no game is good, although this time they can make 5@D|pg||
nt|udo: 5@D makes 11 tricks here , with the @C well placed for USA|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: lucky 5@C on this one|pg||
mb|2S|mb|d|nt|chrumchrum: or 5@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|dburn: Still, this bidding will help them find they don't have a spade stopper|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: strangely enough, with no intervention they wouldve probably ended up in 3nt|pg||
mb|p|nt|bbramley: yes, left to themselves many pairs would reach 3NT|pg||
nt|dburn: and maybe that, with @sQ wasted, they don't have the values for game - though to diagnose all this would be a fine effort|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: In a sense, @hQ is also wasted - it doesn't make much difference in 5@c whether you have it or not|pg||
pc|c7|nt|bbramley: 4@H possible contract also, needs 4-3 @Hs and only 1 club finesse|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|udo: so, a sensible stop, but can be expensive, nevertheless|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: sensible decision, aslo many would cringe at not bidding a game with so many hcp|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||
nt|bbramley: well judged by levin; he knew his cards weren't pulling full weight|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s9|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c5|nt|udo: and its expensive , looking at the closed result|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: unfortunately they will not be pleased with the result|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3SAJ9432H763D86C74,ST5HAK54DQ74C8652,SK86HJT92DT52CKJ3,SQ7HQ8DAKJ93CAQT9|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|3S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s2|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SQ96H943DQJ94C987,SK843HAJ876DK86CQ,S72HKQ52DA52CK632,SAJT5HTDT73CAJT54|sv|n|nt|dburn: Well, the closed result was probably because South overcalled 2@s, West doubled, North bid 3@s, East double to show extras|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: first blood drawn|pg||
nt|udo: fine start for turkey|pg||
nt|bbramley: flannery!|pg||
nt|cherilou: Which pair is at the other table?|pg||
nt|dburn: and no one had anywhere to go after that|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: Welland and Fallenius|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: many would open Levin's hand|pg||
mb|2D|nt|udo: he overcalles a straight 3 @S !!|pg||
mb|p|nt|udo: overcalled|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: 2@D is 5+@S 4+@H 11-15|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: If he did that, he deserved to go for 500 :)|pg||
nt|udo: agree:)|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|cherilou: Uh oh they wrong sided it|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: wrong sided, but a duck will let him make now|pg||
nt|dburn: But, as we saw from Levin and Weinstein's result, sometimes your bidding does not get you the results you deserve|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
nt|bbramley: tough to right-side this in any system|pg||
nt|cherilou: I'm sure he'll duck---yep|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|bbramley: still needs to guess one black card, I believe|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|bbramley: that will help|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg||
nt|dburn: He may just cross-ruff, but needs to be a little careful|pg||
nt|bbramley: yes, crossruff will work|pg||
nt|dburn: Easier to start with clubs - hearts may get over-ruffed by South at an awkward stage|pg||
nt|udo: crossruff=best line, needs no guess in @S and @C|pg||
nt|udo: only some 4-3 standings|pg||
nt|bbramley: don't think it matters. if wrong opponent has last heart or club, ruff high and try the other suit|pg||
nt|dburn: True - it's only the 5-2 breaks that might do you in|pg||
nt|bbramley: at worst need @SQ with north|pg||
nt|cherilou: With the 2 suits to be crossruffed being = length,it's probably just a guess as which one to start first|pg||
nt|bbramley: @S8 is high enough at the end|pg||
nt|dburn: Clubs probably better - the fall of a doubleton king could enable you to change tack|pg||
nt|dburn: whereas the fall of a doubleton heart honor is less use|pg||
nt|udo: good point|pg||
nt|bbramley: agree|pg||
nt|cherilou: me too|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: me three|pg||
nt|dburn: Oh, well. That's my sensible comment for the day, and I wasted it early :)|pg||
nt|bbramley: if south inserts @S9 on 4th round, overruff and crossruff high|pg||
nt|ritong: we allow you a joker, david:)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ritong: or two|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s3|nt|ritong: :)|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: all right, he heard us right|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|s4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cT|nt|bbramley: doesn't matter here, but one advantage for flannery is concealment of declarer's hand|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s8|nt|cherilou: isn't it great when we get in the players heads???|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SQ96H943DQJ94C987,SK843HAJ876DK86CQ,S72HKQ52DA52CK632,SAJT5HTDT73CAJT54|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|adolfod: hi all|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|vugraph3: hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning Marek|pg||
nt|vugraph3: Good morning Roland:)|pg||
nt|timb: apaprently|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|s3|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|s4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|sA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|cJ|mc|10|pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1SA863HKT96DT7CT42,STHAQJ743D9842C96,SKJ754H85DJ5CAJ87,SQ92H2DAKQ63CKQ53|sv|e|nt|udo: yes, it is:)|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: why are you underruffing opps? ;-)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The link to the convention cards is  www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|chrumchrum: 5@D here|pg||
nt|cherilou: Uh oh who do we have amongst us?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|udo: but difficult to reach after the weak-two|pg||
nt|Walddk2: To access the up to minute results and rankings: Click Explore Bridge! ---> Vugraph Theatre and the big green banner above the chat window: "Click for latest standings and scores ...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: of the Olympiad"|pg||
nt|bbramley: identical play in 4@S at the other table, except south did ruff with @S9 at end|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: once they bid @S a couple of times - 5@D becomes more likely|pg||
nt|udo: what should levin do now ?|pg||
nt|dburn: Can Levin bid diamonds naturally? Some play that as showing a heart fit. maybe only lead-directing|pg||
mb|3H|nt|cherilou: Their cc says new suits forcing-- but maybe not after 2@S|pg||
nt|udo: without iontervention new suit is forcing on their cc|pg||
mb|3S|nt|bbramley: 5@D is no bargain, needs lots of good luck|pg||
nt|udo: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: Still, 3@h also shows a heart fit in some circles|pg||
nt|udo: 3@S doubled is no fun for NS|pg||
nt|dburn: Levin isn't thinking of saving or bidding a game to make. He's just trying to push them around.|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: isnt a singleton @H a fit? 'P, we've got more of them then they do' ;-)|pg||
nt|bbramley: 2@S is a little light for my taste|pg||
nt|cherilou: I think all will go quietly|pg||
nt|bbramley: at matchpoints would double for sure|pg||
nt|udo: in the other room they doubled 2 @S !!|pg||
nt|dburn: These days, you don't necessarily have more hearts than they do just because partner is supposed to have six.|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: he might as well have 4?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|dburn: But Weinstein is a Solid Citizen, so will probably have what he says he has :)|pg||
nt|udo: guess levin will be endplayed in the end of this contract|pg||
nt|cherilou: Wow- doubling a partscore to get +100---a little scary|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|udo: 2 @S, 2 @h , club ducked , and he is forced to play @C,@D or @S|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|bbramley: e/w can't avoid endplaying themselves|pg||
nt|udo: no|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: likely to be a flat board|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg||
nt|bbramley: best now is to win and return low @H for east to ruff. then @S exit makes declarer guess how to play @Cs for the endplay|pg||
nt|udo: undo ?|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: I think thats what he wishes now to do|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|udo: oh no, he didnt believe the raise with a singleton|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|bbramley: maybe if east had doubled west would have gotten it right|pg||
nt|bbramley: still no way to make 9 tricks|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: cant blame him really, thought his p had 852|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h9|nt|udo: ok -1 and 2 imps for turkey|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1SA863HKT96DT7CT42,STHAQJ743D9842C96,SKJ754H85DJ5CAJ87,SQ92H2DAKQ63CKQ53|sv|e|nt|mareczek: hi all|pg||
nt|adolfod: fastest play of the tournament|pg||
nt|ritong: czesc marek:)|pg||
nt|curtis: Hi gang|pg||
nt|adolfod: hi all|pg||
nt|ritong: hey curtis, hola adolfo|pg||
nt|spil: hello all|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: hello steph|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|mareczek: EW have a thin 5@d|pg||
nt|mareczek: it is difficult to reach after 2@h opening|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|mareczek: my bet is that they finish in 4@h|pg||
nt|mareczek: slightly worse in %% than 5@d|pg||
mb|p|nt|timb: and make it|pg||
mb|2S|nt|curtis: Versace-Lauria system should be understandable to the audience.  Their only serious artificiality is with strong constructive auctions.  Otherwise very 'standard' approach|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|mareczek: 3@d probably showed a good opening with some fragment or feature in diammonds|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c7|nt|timb: down one quickly|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sK|nt|curtis: I don't think Lauria would have tried at any other colors.  But these he expected a little extra|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|s5|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|mc|7|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2S83H63DKJ9CKQ7543,SAKQT6HAK9D8742C9,S52HQT82DQT653C62,SJ974HJ754DACAJT8|sv|b|nt|bbramley: but playing an honor was very unlikely to cost|pg||
mb|1S|nt|dburn: This is a very good slam, and Turkey have bid it|pg||
nt|udo: good result here in the closed|pg||
mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: nice hand, and the result is likely to be duplicated|pg||
mb|3N|nt|bbramley: expect a push, good hand for a splinter in @Ds|pg||
mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: 3nt shows any 1444|pg||
nt|cherilou: Good slam here- they do have the methods for it--yes, this is a splinter|pg||
mb|4C|nt|udo: but splinter with an ace is not everybodys choice|pg||
nt|dburn: Some may not like to splinter on the singleton @dA, but I don't think Levin has much choice|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|nt|cherilou: It is the most descriptive bid |pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|cherilou: and look how great that makes the west hand|pg||
nt|dburn: The reason for this is that partner, with such as KQxx facing shortage, thinks these are wasted cards|pg||
nt|bbramley: i suspect 3nt was mini-spl, 4@C ask, 4@H shows short @D|pg||
nt|dburn: but with four little ones, he doesn't care what his partner's singleton is|pg||
nt|udo: thinking about 7 ?|pg||
nt|udo: against 2 aces |pg||
nt|bbramley: i don't mind spl with ace, partner will still usually go right|pg||
nt|bbramley: bigger disadvantage is that partner will expect more values in the long suits|pg||
nt|dburn: He may be thinking of seven, but even facing a great heart holding such as @hQJxx, there would be plenty of work to do|pg||
nt|udo: or is kolata thinking ?|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: for example Q@H|pg||
nt|dburn: The operators can't type the bids in until both players on the same side of the screen have called|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No, South and West are on the same side of the screen, so our operator will not enter the bids until both players have made their call|pg||
nt|cherilou: Why is Steve having a problem? If he asks for K's with 5NT because he has all the key cards and the trump Q he'll find out there are no K's in the east hand. |pg||
nt|dburn: I am sure Kolata has passed and Weinstein is thinking|pg||
nt|bbramley: maybe 6@H here would ask for 3rd round control|pg||
nt|dburn: Maybe West is wondering how to find out if East has Jxxx QJxxx A Axx|pg||
mb|p|nt|bbramley: still, he has a lot of @Ds to ruff, 7 might get sticky on a trump lead anyway|pg||
nt|dburn: Indeed - you really would need East to have a source of tricks in hearts|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: looks like he's using plenty of mental energy chasing an elusive 7|pg||
nt|dburn: I suppose he might be wondering whether 6@h would send the right message|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: if he gets it wrong, the effect will be disastrous|pg||
nt|bbramley: it would in my own partnership|pg||
nt|dburn: but whatever try he makes, Levin will reject in any case|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|nt|cherilou: but even the @HQ doesn't get you to 13 tricks. You would need to take 3@D ruffs to make it.That could create major transportation problems|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: Sure - you'd need the jack of hearts as well, or plenty of luck|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: uff, lots of stress for a push|pg||
nt|udo: 6 @h = try for grand |pg||
nt|dburn: As Cheri says, @hQ by itself isn't enough. Just because you don't have any losers, that doesn't mean you have 13 winners|pg||
nt|bbramley: i spoke too quickly. transpo ok even with trump lead opposite, say, Jxxx-Qxxx-A-Axxx. need merely 2 rounds of @H's to go|pg||
pc|s2|nt|bbramley: of course, @SJ is nice to have|pg||
nt|cherilou: I think 6@H was a good bid, Bobby might have had QJxxx of @H's and VOILA|pg||
nt|bbramley: this was a very good auction, reached right spot for right reason|pg||
nt|dburn: I think this was a very good auction indeed. Comes of being very good players, I guess :)|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|nt|chrumchrum: even QJxx only requieres 2 ruffs|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
nt|bbramley: auction in other room was not as convincing|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|dburn: They should introduce marks for style and technical merit.|pg||
nt|dburn: Or maybe not. We have enough controversial judgements as it is.|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: then it would be like ice skating|pg||
nt|bbramley: he still needs 2 rounds of @Hs to go through. he will be careful to lead 2nd @H from dummy as well|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: 5.7 for style|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Morocco missed the slam against Italy after East made an 11-14 hcp raise (3@D). A few cue bids and sign off in 4@S|pg||
nt|dburn: Some of the bids I've seen here in IStanbul are skating on very thin ice anyway|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: just xruff for 12|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2S83H63DKJ9CKQ7543,SAKQT6HAK9D8742C9,S52HQT82DQT653C62,SJ974HJ754DACAJT8|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|mareczek: once again interesting hand in offensive bidding|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|adolfod: e-w can make 6 spades|pg||
nt|mareczek: 6@s is cold with 27 PC on EW|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|mareczek: it is interesting now if the @c shortness was disclosed|pg||
nt|mareczek: versace's sequence looks descriptive|pg||
nt|mareczek: but in their system could be a little artificial|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|mareczek: well bid... as usual when Italians are in action|pg||
pc|dA|nt|adolfod: he only needs to ruff three diamonds in dummy, standard play for Versace|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|curtis: pulling trumps works, too|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|s9|pc|dK|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|s6|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|sJ|pc|c3|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SAT6HAJ6DJ9852CAK,SJ85HQ9872DT7CJ74,SKQ4HKT54DKQ6C963,S9732H3DA43CQT852|sv|n|nt|udo: good flat board|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The score in that match is 26-11 to Italy after 7 boards|pg||
nt|dburn: Well done everyone. Now another slam...|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: 6@D anyone?|pg||
mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: Not a great slam|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|dburn: ...though this one needs rather more in the way of luck|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|udo: needs @d break not to bad and @h -guess|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|chrumchrum: ok, next one pls|pg||
nt|bbramley: tough to get excited about J9xxx as a trump suit|pg||
nt|dburn: And no heart ruff if you play in diamonds. Better try 6NT|pg||
nt|udo: right|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|h4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h8|pc|c3|nt|cherilou: 30 balanced point 6NT contracts won't gain you much|pg||
nt|dburn: Declarer here is likely to play West for heart length and make six|pg||
nt|dburn: but West is throwing hearts as nonchalantly as he can to pretend not to have the queen|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
nt|udo: after 3 rounds of @S complete distribution is known|pg||
nt|udo: @C-lead was for sure from lenght|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SAT6HAJ6DJ9852CAK,SJ85HQ9872DT7CJ74,SKQ4HKT54DKQ6C963,S9732H3DA43CQT852|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|adolfod: now ns can make slam|pg||
nt|mareczek: do you sympathize with 1@h overcall?|pg||
mb|2C|nt|curtis: any 13 cards for Alfredo|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|mareczek: it is the usual Lauria-Versace style|pg||
mb|2H|an| |nt|adolfod: no|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph3: Lauria is thinking  but Versace put all cards :)|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d5|pc|c7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s7|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4S98654H732DJ3CKQ6,SAKQ7HQTDQTCAJT95,S32HKJ654DA62C832,SJTHA98DK98754C74|sv|e|nt|chrumchrum: every imp matters ;-)|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: at least that's what Italians say|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|bbramley: no, actually, with this VP scale only SOME imps matter|pg||
nt|dburn: Not really. Only 11 IMPs matter. That is what the VP scale is all about. You just have to guess which 11 they are.|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|nt|bbramley: we have started using continuous VP scales for some events here|pg||
nt|udo: flat board ?|pg||
nt|dburn: And not before time :) They are complicated, but they are much fairer than the current scheme.|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|dburn: Still, just because the IMP may not matter, that's no reason to stop counting and slop tricks :)|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|nt|chrumchrum: duck|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
nt|bbramley: WBF scale is particularly poor, with wide band from 3-8 imps, then smaller bands|pg||
nt|udo: 2 @D ducks will kill the suit , but he can play @C s then|pg||
nt|cherilou: I think the continous imp scale is a GREAT new scoring plus !|pg||
nt|bbramley: looks like he better guess @Ds right or may go down|pg||
nt|dburn: If he runs the @d10, he is not in great shape|pg||
nt|bbramley: must guess very well after ! misguess|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: even if misguesses, still makes it, no entry to long @Hs|pg||
nt|udo: he can duck one @H than ?|pg||
nt|bbramley: @D|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: if he reads the position correctly, no 1@H overcall makes it much harder|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|nt|bbramley: he's decided to go for 1 of 2 clubs onside|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|dburn: this will work, because South has both club honours|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|dburn: but the defence has made it hard for Levin here|pg||
nt|udo: one honour right would be enough |pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|d5|pc|cK|pg||
nt|dburn: It would be all right if it were accompanied by no more than two small cards|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4S98654H732DJ3CKQ6,SAKQ7HQTDQTCAJT95,S32HKJ654DA62C832,SJTHA98DK98754C74|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|2H|nt|adolfod: interesting contract in closed room|pg||
mb|3D|nt|mareczek: 5@c from closed room was the starnge contract|pg||
nt|mareczek: strange|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|adolfod: ns compete in hearts and ew cant find 3 NT|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: would that be enough for Versace to overcall if he were North?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning to Radoslav Radev from Bulgaria|pg||
pc|h4|nt|adolfod: with north cards versace can bid at least twice|pg||
nt|rado: good morning all|pg||
nt|adolfod: hi|pg||
nt|curtis: hey Rado|pg||
nt|vugraph3: zdravei Rado|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|rado: Hola, czesch, hi|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|nt|swanson: it would have been more exciting for declarer with the HK return|pg||
nt|vugraph3: short break|pg||
nt|rado: maybe smoking pause?|pg||
nt|vugraph3: no:)|pg||
nt|vugraph3: Langhrari went out from box|pg||
nt|rado: Morroco pair using natural methods, 5 cards Majors (french influence)|pg||
nt|vugraph3: now Lauria|pg||
nt|swanson: Convention cards for all pairs in the Olympiad matches available at: www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg||
nt|rado: with 3/5 leads vs suit and 4th vs NT (again 3/5 if in partner's suit)|pg||
nt|swanson: Teams, results and other information available at: http://www.bridgebase.pl/online/online.php|pg||
nt|rado: also at official WBF site: www.bridge.gr|pg||
nt|curtis: Some V-L methods are filtering across the ocean.  The Canadian kid superstars, Gavin Wolpert and Vince Demuy use most of their methods.  Got to finals of the Spingold in July|pg||
nt|mareczek: also 1@h overcall?|pg||
nt|curtis: lol|pg||
nt|curtis: I should have said CONSTRUCTIVE methods|pg||
nt|vugraph3: we start again|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|h8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|mc|11|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1SAJ542HQDJ532CKQJ,SK9HJT976D7CAT932,ST863HADAT984C754,SQ7HK85432DKQ6C86|sv|b|nt|chrumchrum: he defenders are putting lots of pressure there|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|bbramley: in other room, north overcalled 1@H, declarer led @D10 to the king|pg||
mb|3D|nt|chrumchrum: good game that goes down|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|udo: yes both @D-honours wrong |pg||
pc|hA|nt|cherilou: Other room there too|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: @H now ;-)|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: wont believe they had 11 of them between them|pg||
nt|bbramley: if he leads @H now, then he better lead his @D later when in with @CA|pg||
nt|cherilou: Yes, he could actually get it wrong here|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|bbramley: I think east's play at trick one was suit preference|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|c3|pg||
nt|cherilou: that's a pretty big play to underlead his A--at least nothing can go wrong now|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1SAJ542HQDJ532CKQJ,SK9HJT976D7CAT932,ST863HADAT984C754,SQ7HK85432DKQ6C86|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|rado: 3@S for N-s here|pg||
nt|rado: and 3@H for E-W|pg||
mb|2H!|an|!S supp, invite|mb|p|nt|curtis: suprising stop.  I would expect 4S  -1|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adolfod: the duplication in hearts and both diamond honors off side,|pg||
nt|timb: if the norh's red suits were swapped we'd all want to be in 4@S|pg||
nt|swanson: immediate bad news for declarer|pg||
nt|rado: @D lead deleted all chances for elimination play|pg||
mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|nt|vugraph3: declarer ask for @D|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dK|mc|9|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SJT8HT76DJT7CAQJ7,SAK952HQ98DK4CT54,S64H53DQ963CK9863,SQ73HAKJ42DA852C2|sv|o|nt|chrumchrum: these are really hard earned pushes|pg||
mb|1S|nt|chrumchrum: wonder if many pairs bid this slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|bbramley: same play in other room, @H opening lead, @C underlead later|pg||
mb|2H|nt|cherilou: good slam that the other table missed--a chance to gain a bundle|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: And tie the match at 11|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|bbramley: very hard for west to envision slam here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cherilou: I wonder if they play serious or nonserios 3NT here to show slam interest?|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|udo: the singleton @C has to come in the auction to make slam attractive for West|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: not for West, East only could decide|pg||
nt|dburn: Well, if West had volunteered 4@d, East might have donre the rest|pg||
nt|udo: did East enough ?|pg||
nt|bbramley: they play serious 3nt|pg||
nt|dburn: but the trouble with 2/1 is that West had to limit his hand sometime|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: If serious 3NT is on, Weinstein might have made a non serious cue bid (4@D). That would have been music to Levin's ears|pg||
nt|dburn: and he might have thought that 4@d would show at least soem extras|pg||
nt|cherilou: when 2 suits are bid and raised it gives the partnership just a little bit of room to get their extras out in the open|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
nt|udo: perhaps East should bid a minor controll instread of 3 @S , @H will play fine |pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SJT8HT76DJT7CAQJ7,SAK952HQ98DK4CT54,S64H53DQ963CK9863,SQ73HAKJ42DA852C2|sv|o|mb|1S|nt|rado: 3@D was 4 cards fit and 11-14 p as per CC|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|adolfod: another slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|curtis: That's the kind of claiming I like - just ask the opponents if you're making|pg||
nt|timb: perfect fir here|pg||
nt|swanson: looks like another slam swing coming up for the Italians|pg||
nt|rado: here 2@H over 1@S is the only not FG |pg||
mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rado: 2@C and 2@D are FG, while 2@H is forcing to 3@H only|pg||
nt|adolfod: they can make 13 tricks in hearts without a club lead, but not in spades|pg||
nt|mareczek: difficult... 26 PC, not great distribution|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|nt|rado: maybe 2NT showing 5332, min hand and later clarifying the @H fit|pg||
nt|swanson: does 2NT have a special meaning; why not raise to 3@H|pg||
nt|adolfod: if they get 6 spades the 13 trick will save an imp|pg||
nt|rado: tried to find in CC, but nothing there|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
nt|swanson: would 4NT here be double Blackwood?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|curtis: much like their last slam  - it's all about singleton facing loe cards|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|adolfod: seven  and 11 imps|pg||
nt|curtis: still smoking in the slam department.  The IMPs can pile up pretty quick|pg||
nt|swanson: Italy deserves the swing for a well bid hand.|pg||
nt|adolfod: but perhaps he will play safe|pg||
nt|adolfod: and make only 12 tricks|pg||
nt|rado: Welcome to Norberto Bocchi at the audience, he confirmed 2NT 5332 (may have 3@H) and min hand + 5@C cue|pg||
nt|swanson: South's double in both slam sequences was an assist to the opponents.|pg||
nt|swanson: The double gives the next hand two extra bids: pass and redouble|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|nt|rado: 6@H has a litlle more than 60 % chanse with @H 3-2 or 4-1 and @S 3-2 or 4-1 with singleton J or 10 at North|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c3|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3S5HQJ5DA87CAJ7632,ST9642HK87DQT2CT8,SQ3HT9632DK65CKQ4,SAKJ87HA4DJ943C95|sv|e|nt|dburn: At any rate, 11 IMPs to nobody|pg||
mb|p|nt|bbramley: but the double fit is the key to slam|pg||
mb|1S|nt|udo: :)|pg||
mb|2C|nt|udo: East knows it and can take some action in the right direction ?|pg||
mb|3H|nt|dburn: Nobody, by the way, are leading this event by a mile. They have picked up a great many 11 IMP swings already.|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: wonder how high they'll get here|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Well, the England Open team seems to get a lot of 11's. Didn't they score a maximum 75 VPs yesterday, David?  (David is the England Open coach)|pg||
nt|dburn: They did, but we have already apologised. It was an accident, and it won't happen again.|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: :-)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: 4@C is defeated by a @H ruff, but might be let through|pg||
pc|sT|nt|bbramley: after count spade lead east might get his ruff|pg||
nt|bbramley: much harder now|pg||
nt|udo: 3 @h was a mixed raise ( 6-8 ) in @S |pg||
pc|s3|nt|dburn: !10 is a strange sort of lead - might be better to try to let partner know how many you've got|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c3|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|bbramley: a @D shift would also have worked|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
nt|udo: and 4@C made|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: too late|pg||
pc|c4|nt|dburn: Poor Levin is studiously cashing @sAK in that order to signal for hearts|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg||
nt|cherilou: they still have 2 chances to shift to@D|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: signalling is good ;-)|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3S5HQJ5DA87CAJ7632,ST9642HK87DQT2CT8,SQ3HT9632DK65CKQ4,SAKJ87HA4DJ943C95|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|curtis: might be tricky to find hearts|pg||
nt|rado: 3@H for NS and 3@S for EW here|pg||
nt|adolfod: again 3 hearts versus 3 spades|pg||
mb|3S!|nt|curtis: 10xxxx will have to introduce them|pg||
nt|rado: 4@H could be made without @D lead or shift|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|rado: nice preemptive 3@s by Versace being in red|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|curtis: There is a new trend in American expert circles to use the responsive double to show 5 of any unbid majors|pg||
nt|rado: many would prefer to have singleton for that bid|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|nt|adolfod: shift to a red suit |pg||
pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|swanson: If the double is takout and not "cards", shouldn't South take a shot at 4H?|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|mc|9|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SKJHA96543D84CK83,SA84H7DKQT76CJ764,SQT732HQJ8D53CAQT,S965HKT2DAJ92C952|sv|b|nt|chrumchrum: what?|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: even @D shift was too late now|pg||
nt|dburn: Well, declarer did still have a spade, two hearts and a diamond to lose|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|bbramley: i bet he claimed making, not down 1|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: why @D? just discard it on @Hs, Q@C entry|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|udo: for me ,  it was 10 tricks !!|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: must have been a misunderstanding of some kind|pg||
nt|bbramley: in other room lead was @S2 and east shifted to @D at trick 2|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|dburn: I did tell you I was only allowed one sensible comment per day. Sorry :)|pg||
pc|d3|nt|chrumchrum: ok, flat down 1|pg||
nt|cherilou: should not be a problem setting this contract once Steve led a@D|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|bbramley: ah, i see score corrected on previous board|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SKJHA96543D84CK83,SA84H7DKQT76CJ764,SQT732HQJ8D53CAQT,S965HKT2DAJ92C952|sv|b|nt|curtis: i think so - As Joe Grue would say, That's where the money is|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|adolfod: this seems to be the match for a 3 hearts playing|pg||
mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|an| |mb|r|mb|3D|nt|adolfod: well done|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d3|nt|swanson: Not to mention 4AM in California|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|d7|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|dQ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1SA9852H4DT982CAK4,SJT743HT75D64C852,SK6HAKJ8632DJ7CT6,SQHQ9DAKQ53CQJ973|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|chrumchrum: easy 4@H here|pg||
mb|2N|nt|udo: 4 @h best endcontract here , and should be reached without problems|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|cherilou: this is a good 4@H contract|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|bbramley: usa finally scored on previous board when they sold out to 3@D and beat it 2 tricks|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|udo: 10 tricks because he will finesse ?|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d4|nt|bbramley: yes, finesse|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|udo: after levin showed the minors he must take the finesse in case @H are 4-0|pg||
nt|bbramley: 4-1|pg||
nt|udo: 4-1|pg||
nt|udo: :)|pg||
nt|bbramley: he'll be nervous when the finesse loses, of course:)|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
nt|udo: sure, could be a singleton Queen:))|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|cherilou: It took the USA 10 boards to win an imp--that's a long time, even when the boards are flat. Seems like there's always some over or under trick difference|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: a very even match, almost no swings|pg||
nt|udo: in this moment North may think he is down !|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1SA9852H4DT982CAK4,SJT743HT75D64C852,SK6HAKJ8632DJ7CT6,SQHQ9DAKQ53CQJ973|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|swanson: At the other table Norht porbably opened 4@H and East couldn't stay out|pg||
mb|2D|nt|swanson: Oops, wasn't dealer|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: 1S opening looks pretty normal so it may have been frustration at having already missed 2 slams|pg||
mb|d|an| |mb|p|mb|2S|an| |mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|timb: -1100 is an ugly result |pg||
mb|p|mb|3H!|nt|rado: Nunes opened 2@S with S hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: It's easy to get caught in a catch-up psyche against the italians after a few bad boards|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|adolfod: south opened 2 spades in the closed room, north bid 3 clubs and east 3 NT, and there begun the doubles till they got 5 clubs|pg||
pc|dA|mc|8|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SQ86HKQ3DQCQJT764,SJ42HDK9643CK9532,SAT3HT98DAT852CA8,SK975HAJ76542DJ7C|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|3H|nt|chrumchrum: 3nt?|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|dburn: Probably|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|dburn: Not much else to do. really|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: well, that's a helpful lead|pg||
nt|bbramley: difference in style, i'd have bid 4@H at favorable|pg||
nt|bbramley: initially|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cA|nt|bbramley: that would have been down only 2, and 3nt will make|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|d2|nt|udo: i am a 4@H  bidder too, 7-4 is always a nice extra-shape|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|nt|dburn: Maybe with the minors the other way round, he'd have risked 4@h|pg||
nt|cherilou: 7-4 hands have so much going for them- I agree with Bart, they deserve that extra level of bidding. Besides the preemp value is worth a lot|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|dburn: But @dJx, plus the rest of his defense and gappy heart suit may have put him off|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|d8|nt|chrumchrum: 4@H was a 10imp swing on the previous board|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d4|pc|s3|nt|bbramley: levin likes to have a little extra and hope to get doubled|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|dT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d6|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d7|pc|s6|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|nt|cherilou: It's the poker strategy|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SQ86HKQ3DQCQJT764,SJ42HDK9643CK9532,SAT3HT98DAT852CA8,SK975HAJ76542DJ7C|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|3H|nt|rado: now a misfit hand|pg||
nt|rado: problem bid for SOuth here (dbl would imply 4@S)|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|rado: and North had easy pass with flat distribution and 3 Aces|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg||
nt|swanson: If you can't double on the South cards, you are playing the wrong system (I know, I have played it.)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|timb: :)|pg||
nt|rado: hi level dbls usually show just "cards"|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|d3|pg||
nt|swanson: That was a silly play with no entries to dummy.|pg||
nt|rado: at the other room Italy made 3NT for 600 with NS cards|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|d4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|adolfod: and here will be down two, 300|pg||
pc|sK|mc|10|pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3ST43HJ8DAKJ9CKJ93,SKQ972H976D8742CT,S65HA543DQT3CA742,SAJ8HKQT2D65CQ865|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|chrumchrum: just put some pressure, make them guess if you're going for 500 vs nothing or 300 vs 630|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|dburn: Assael at the other table may be less cautious (though 1@h also isn't silly)|pg||
nt|udo: everybodys 1 @d ?|pg||
mb|d|nt|chrumchrum: mine for sure|pg||
mb|r|nt|bbramley: not me|pg||
nt|dburn: Nor me|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: got a chance to bid once - bid|pg||
mb|2C|mb|2S|nt|dburn: With those clubs, you may not desperately need a diamond lead against a major-suit game|pg||
nt|cherilou: I think 1@D should have a reason, you're not taking up any bidding space from the opps so you either think it's your hand or it's lead directing|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: and if they end up in 3NT, because West has say @dQ10xx, you really don't want a diamond lead which will blow a tempo|pg||
mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: its not only about leads, its about finding a partscore too, when 2@S gets back to you, might be too late|pg||
pc|sK|nt|bbramley: overcall was right this time, could be double partscore swing|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg||
nt|dburn: Atabey did well to keep all three suits in the game by his takeout double of 1@s|pg||
nt|bbramley: attaboy!|pg||
nt|cherilou: you know sometimes it works- not my style at all. Levin's XX was support, showing 3@S,but even knowing they had 9@S not enough for West to bid again|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h7|nt|cherilou: why did north's X show 3 suits- I thought it was a standard treatment for it to show the unbid suit,@H's here and @D tolerence|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|udo: 9 tricks should be there with a @S-ruff|pg||
nt|dburn: Because Levin's clubs weren't real, clubs was also a suit|pg||
nt|udo: agree cherie , shows @h and @Dssupport usually|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c9|nt|dburn: by "real", I mean 4+ cards|pg||
nt|dburn: On this occasion, he happened to have real clubs. He won't take a trick in them, because they weren't real enough.|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: go Turkey!|pg||
nt|udo: you can alwaqys correct a club-bid to @D , so @C are not necessary for the X|pg||
nt|dburn: They were what mathematicians call pseudo-real clubs|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3ST43HJ8DAKJ9CKJ93,SKQ972H976D8742CT,S65HA543DQT3CA742,SAJ8HKQT2D65CQ865|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|rado: another partscore battle now with 3@S for EW and 2NT for NS|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rado: with this lead 3@D also makable|pg||
nt|adolfod: easy nine tricks|pg||
mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s2|nt|rado: @H lead or @S lead and @H shift would beat it|pg||
pc|dT|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|adolfod: only a heart lead put some pressure on declarer|pg||
nt|curtis: would have to take 1st round club finesse|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SA92H962DAT76CK92,SQHK853DJ32CT8743,SKJT4HA7DKQ854CJ6,S87653HQJT4D9CAQ5|sv|o|nt|chrumchrum: imaginary clubs?|pg||
nt|cherilou: Levin's @C were real-or as real as @C's ever get|pg||
nt|dburn: No, no. Then, he would need the square root of some negative clubs|pg||
nt|udo: thin but makeable 3 NT for NS|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: I think both pairs will get there|pg||
nt|bbramley: meanwhile, in closed room fallenius-welland did well to buy the hand and win 1 imp|pg||
nt|udo: ok 25 HCp, no so thin:)|pg||
nt|dburn: They did indeed - that looked a dangerous board for USA|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|dburn: Kolata is not a member of the "two aces and a king is an opening bid" school|pg||
mb|r|nt|chrumchrum: perhaps thought it wasnt worth it in 2nd |pg||
nt|cherilou: his lovely distribution should sway him?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|dburn: Naturally. If partner bids a suit, he has a fit :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|udo: now NS must decide that 1 @H-stop is enough |pg||
nt|dburn: Now this auction is a little murky...|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: with 4333 if his p bids 1 banana, he can safely say 2 bananas|pg||
mb|2H|nt|dburn: Levin may well bid 2@h, and|pg||
nt|udo: ok, 5 @D makes too|pg||
mb|3D|nt|dburn: ...he just did, so that now this may be passed out in 3@d|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: Facing a passed partner, with spades to his left, Atabey may pack it in|pg||
mb|3S|nt|cherilou: he shouldn't pass pard did XX and N has decent hand. See..... now maybe 4@C then game|pg||
nt|dburn: He did well, though, but it is still not clear for NS to reach game. Kolata could bid 3NT now anyway, since he can't really have a heart stop - but will he? Or will he bid 5@d?|pg||
nt|udo: south is absolutely max for his bidding , so North did well here to go on, pass would have been an alterantive in my opinion|pg||
nt|udo: south must go to game now, he cannot have more |pg||
nt|bbramley: 5@D still inferior to 3nt, needs 2 finesses|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|dburn: Turkey have almost never been known to miss a game. They have, of course, been known to go down in one every now and then.|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|udo: and the ace of @S is great after the 3 @S-bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|chrumchrum: apparently '2As, K is an opening bid' school wins on this board|pg||
pc|h2|nt|chrumchrum: 1imp only, but it couldve been worse|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d4|nt|dburn: Not really. But that was a pretty good battlefield effort by all concerned.|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|udo: yes , indeed|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|bbramley: correct @D play, guards against all 4 with west, a live possibility|pg||
pc|s6|nt|dburn: I'd better go and see how England are doing. See you later, I hope :)|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: see you David|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Italy up by 35 IMPs after 18 boards against Morocco = 22-8 VPs|pg||
nt|bbramley: bye, david|pg||
nt|cherilou: bye David|pg||
nt|udo: bye|pg||
nt|cherilou: EW were not in the auction at the other table. Levin certainly made it harder for them with their @H holding|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|bbramley: breathing easier now|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|chrumchrum: 3@Ss, discard a @H, exit with a @H|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c8|pc|sJ|nt|chrumchrum: marks for style ;-)|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|h6|nt|udo: 6,0 _:)|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c5|nt|udo: he knows @H-king with west so clubs should be right anyway|pg||
pc|cK|nt|chrumchrum: whatever he does is right|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SA92H962DAT76CK92,SQHK853DJ32CT8743,SKJT4HA7DKQ854CJ6,S87653HQJT4D9CAQ5|sv|o|nt|swanson: The play in 2@S at the other table didn't go so well.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H!|nt|adolfod: three down, seems too much|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: note the 1@C opening by Versace here:-)|pg||
nt|swanson: Is this a bit of fun with a 43 IMP lead?|pg||
mb|1S!|nt|rado: again transfers after 1@C and overcall|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|rado: 2@S is cue showing good @D support|pg||
nt|rado: with @D and @S suit behaving it's 10 or 11 tricks at NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|adolfod: do you agree with the pass of south in second seat?|pg||
nt|swanson: Declarer might well go down in 3NT after taking a "marked" first round spade finesse.|pg||
nt|rado: many agressive players would open  even weaker hand than present:-)|pg||
nt|curtis: fortunately he can play safe for 3 spade tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|swanson: I think only the weak notrump players are safe in opening the SOuth hand.|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: note that Lauria has some ambitions vs normal 1@C opening:-)|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
nt|adolfod: ooops|pg||
pc|hT|nt|vugraph3: :)|pg||
nt|swanson: I'm too old for this kind of bidding.|pg||
nt|adolfod: lolllllllllllllll|pg||
nt|vugraph3: :))|pg||
nt|rado: the psych sometimes turns against the psycher|pg||
pc|h6|nt|curtis: won't get hurt too bad|pg||
nt|rado: anyway 4@H is normal sacrifice vs 3NT|pg||
nt|adolfod: but the italians did not find the game in the closed room|pg||
nt|rado: 5@D also makable|pg||
nt|rado: or 4NT|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pg||
nt|adolfod: danger|pg||
pc|d4|nt|swanson: Where's that red card with the X on it?|pg||
pc|d9|nt|rado: the TD stole them|pg||
nt|adolfod: now he can guess wrong the spades|pg||
nt|vugraph3: very long war:)|pg||
nt|curtis: now the 1st round spade finesse comes into play|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|nt|curtis: and goes back out|pg||
nt|swanson: Now the spade safety play is back in order|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s3|nt|curtis: can't believe Fantoni-Nunes missed game at the other table|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c5|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|cQ|nt|swanson: I think that was the right diamond play.  More likely 4 in West rather than East|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SK73HK87632D85CQ9,SQ954HQ9DAK9CKT63,SAJ82HAJ5DJ432C54,ST6HT4DQT76CAJ872|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: 17 IMPs = 19-11 VPs. 6 boards to go|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|chrumchrum: anybody for 2@H?|pg||
nt|udo: interesting 2 NT in the closed , guess NS can make the first 8 tricks |pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|udo: even 9|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Istanbul.04/Istanbul.htm  is the official WBF web site  |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: http://www.bridgebase.pl/online/online.php  for lots of information. Program, teams, results, standings, photos, live web cam and vugraph files|pg||
nt|udo: this is a more sensible contract and NS did not come in with their 9 tricks|pg||
nt|bbramley: superior contract, but must guess @Cs to hold loss to 1 imp|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|nt|udo: that speaks for 2@H -opening ?|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: I'd've opened|pg||
nt|cherilou: As long as he follows that old adage 8 ever/ 9 never|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: partscore battles are much more important at IMPs than commonly thought|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I am not happy with 2@H vul against not with that quit quality|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|nt|cherilou: the 7th one does not make up for the missing honors|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|nt|udo: i pass it too, but here it would have been successfull|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|nt|cherilou: I see a results player in your future|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h8|pg||
nt|bbramley: big play, risked contract for overtrick|pg||
nt|udo: will pass again next time:)|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SK73HK87632D85CQ9,SQ954HQ9DAK9CKT63,SAJ82HAJ5DJ432C54,ST6HT4DQT76CAJ872|sv|n|nt|adolfod: seven imps back|pg||
nt|curtis: today's entertainment|pg||
nt|timb: yes indeed -  a great result|pg||
nt|adolfod: good contract in closed room|pg||
nt|vugraph3: next chance for Morocco|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|an|!C's|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|curtis: must bid at the 1-level with a 6 card suit (IMO)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|rado: another chance for Morroco to win double part score with 3@H now|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|nt|curtis: wow!|pg||
nt|swanson: But the only way for NS to reasonably get in the auction was a TO double of 1@C|pg||
nt|adolfod: better two down in 3 NT|pg||
nt|curtis: maybe 5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg||
nt|vugraph3: big crash|pg||
pc|sA|nt|swanson: Did Lauria intend 2NT as a minor suit choice?|pg||
nt|adolfod: i forgot the spades|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|curtis: the auction got away from V-L at some point.  Just not sure where|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg||
nt|swanson: The Moroccans are finally beginning to enjoy the session.|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
nt|swanson: Four spade tricks are available now|pg||
nt|swanson: only 3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cT|mc|9|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SKJTH76DAKQJ92C76,SA73HT82DT75C9432,SQ6542HQ9D84CAKJ8,S98HAKJ543D63CQT5|sv|e|nt|chrumchrum: an overtrick that didnt matter - 1 anyway|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|bbramley: declarer trusted the opening lead to be 3rd best. also, he thinks match is close so 1 imp may matter more|pg||
mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: Normal looking 4@S with 3 obvious losers|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|bbramley: but here it made no difference!|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: routine 4@S|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|nt|udo: ok, next one|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2SKJTH76DAKQJ92C76,SA73HT82DT75C9432,SQ6542HQ9D84CAKJ8,S98HAKJ543D63CQT5|sv|e|nt|adolfod: seven imps again|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraph3: Lauria played very quickly |pg||
nt|rado: one of the variants of xy checkback is 2@C puppet for 2@D and 2NT next puppet to 3@C intending to sign-off|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|3D!|nt|curtis: looked like the only reasonable explanation for what happened|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|curtis: Versace must not have copied page 2|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: I didn't think he would be able to find a bid on this hand - wrong again.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SJ652HQ95DAJ6CKT6,SQ43H4DQT9873CQJ3,SAKT87HKJT3D4C942,S9HA8762DK52CA875|sv|o|nt|chrumchrum: 4@S again?|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N|nt|udo: EW will bid some @D|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: paradoxically, x makes S hand much better, he knows his values are better placed|pg||
nt|cherilou: this one could go down quickly with some ruffs|pg||
nt|bbramley: but will prob make after @D lead|pg||
mb|4D|nt|udo: should North bid 4 @S ? |pg||
mb|4S|nt|udo: singleton @D is good, but minimum in values|pg||
mb|5D|nt|cherilou: they stayed out of game at the table--could be bad for USA or could be good|pg||
mb|d|nt|bbramley: now bad|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: now good|pg||
mb|p|nt|udo: can escape -1 , guessing @D|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|nt|bbramley: no, @C shift, pump dummy twice|pg||
pc|s5|nt|chrumchrum: true|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|udo: no, must ruff some @S|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That is a cruel defence|pg||
nt|udo: so should be 300 with a shift now|pg||
nt|Walddk2: My prediction is down 1 though|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: so only a 100|pg||
pc|h4|nt|udo: where go the @S  s ?|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|d5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|d8|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|bbramley: still no good, down 2|pg||
nt|udo: @S-ruff, small @C  ,   and -1 , or am i wrong?|pg||
nt|bbramley: then south wins @CK and returns club, gets 2 trump tricks|pg||
nt|bbramley: can't shorten west hand|pg||
nt|udo: correct|pg||
nt|bbramley: if he ruffs a 3rd @H before losing @CK, south taps him out with 4th @S|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|dK|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|c6|nt|chrumchrum: just hoping for 4@Hs in S hand|pg||
pc|d9|pc|hK|pg||
nt|bbramley: his hopes that south started with 3 @Ss, or @CK is onside|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg||
nt|udo: so 4 imps for turkey finally|pg||
nt|cherilou: had he knocked out the @CK right away he might have escaped with one down-because they were 3-3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|dQ|pc|s8|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
nt|bbramley: necessary to cash @DA there|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SJ652HQ95DAJ6CKT6,SQ43H4DQT9873CQJ3,SAKT87HKJT3D4C942,S9HA8762DK52CA875|sv|o|nt|adolfod: ns can make 4 spades guessing right the trump position|pg||
nt|curtis: I expect Morocco to try 4S.  He'd better have his guessing shoes on|pg||
nt|swanson: Not with the @HA lead.  |pg||
nt|curtis: Fantoni-Nunes may have opened North hand with 2S, But I thought they had changed their system to allow opening 1 bids with less than 14 points if they have both majors|pg||
nt|rado: they pass edin 1st position|pg||
nt|rado: passed in|pg||
nt|adolfod: fantoni passed the north hand in closed rooon|pg||
nt|adolfod: room|pg||
nt|curtis: maybe Norberto knows|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2H|an|!S's, inv or better|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rado: bidding RDBL with good @S fit leaves much room for Opps to find their fit/sacrifice|pg||
nt|swanson: Is the East hand close to a 2@H overcall rather than double?|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: Dbl seems clear to me with such a raggedy suit and poor hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: non vulnerable might risk 2@H anyway:-)|pg||
nt|curtis: what do you think, John|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg||
nt|adolfod: strange contract, dont you think?|pg||
nt|swanson: Seems close to me even with the poor suit - again that's where the money is.|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg||
nt|curtis: very|pg||
nt|rado: declarer has to duck @D 2 times and after that easy @C shift from Lauria for down 2 or more|pg||
pc|s2|nt|adolfod: but versace is in play|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rado: ops sorry|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
nt|swanson: The only shift to defeat 3NT|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|curtis: Morocco can't afford to let these opportunities slip by.  Turning potential +7 into -6|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|h8|pg||
nt|swanson: But don't you have a bit of sympathy for the Morocco auction?|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4S7HA9753D9752CQ85,SAJ84HJ42DAJ4CK42,S2HT86DQT863CA963,SKQT9653HKQDKCJT7|sv|n|nt|udo: to kill coup en passant|pg||
nt|bbramley: right|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: good boards, great bidding and def|pg||
mb|1S|nt|udo: easy 4 @S here|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|Walddk2: 1 IMP in it perhaps|pg||
nt|cherilou: no imps for USA here- running ot of boards-only 2 left after this one|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: 3@C is GF raise|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, a Jacoby 2NT so to speak|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I know Fred Gitelman - Brad Moss play that too|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: What's your view Bart? Is it a good treatment?|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|bbramley: i use 2nt as str raise. i'd rather lose that bid than 3@C.|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|udo: and one step more beyond game for some distribution-asks can be helpfull |pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
nt|bbramley: i suspect east showed minimum w/@D shortness|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h3|mc|11|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4S7HA9753D9752CQ85,SAJ84HJ42DAJ4CK42,S2HT86DQT863CA963,SKQT9653HKQDKCJT7|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|rado: now a calm auction to 4@S (or maybe 5@S)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rado: 2@C is FG with 4+@C or balanced hand|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hK|nt|timb: the play should be quicker|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|mc|11|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1S94HA972D95CKQ876,SQ86HK63DKQJ2CJT2,SAK732HQJT4DTC953,SJT5H85DA87643CA4|sv|e|mb|p|nt|bbramley: possible swing, N/S make 4@H, but looks hard to bid|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2S|nt|chrumchrum: more likely to bid a partscore I think|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2@S is a sound diamond raise|pg||
mb|3C|nt|udo: 4 @H needs lot of luck , clubs come in and @S 3-3 |pg||
mb|3D|nt|bbramley: don't need @Ss|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: looks like @Hs got lost altogether|pg||
nt|udo: @H not mentioned till now|pg||
nt|udo: :)|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|udo: yes, clubs must come in|pg||
pc|dA|nt|udo: 1 or 2 imps again to turkey|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|nt|bbramley: best to start @Cs before playing too many trumps|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: looks like a coffee break|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|Walddk2: Maybe one could use double of 2@S to show hearts, either 4 unlimited or 5 not strong enough to bid. You have 3@D available as a sound spade raise|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|cherilou: that's an interesting treatment-I like it|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
nt|udo: and much more important to show some @S honour with X|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|udo: more important as showing @S-honour|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1S94HA972D95CKQ876,SQ86HK63DKQJ2CJT2,SAK732HQJT4DTC953,SJT5H85DA87643CA4|sv|e|nt|rado: closed room finished all 20 boards|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|swanson: Tough to bid this game.|pg||
mb|3D!|nt|curtis: cue bid, 2n -3n|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|adolfod: wich game?|pg||
pc|h5|nt|rado: which game? 4@h |pg||
nt|swanson: I meant 4@H North-South|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|curtis: they obviously don't care if they go down a few|pg||
nt|adolfod: lolll|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|curtis: funny|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|d9|nt|rado: 4@h made at closed, so another imps for Italy:-)|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SA3HQT7DAK65CKQ84,ST964HJ8432D82CAJ,S82HK5DJ9743C9732,SKQJ75HA96DQTCT65|sv|b|nt|chrumchrum: here we go - last board of this exciting match|pg||
mb|p|nt|chrumchrum: tx to all my fellow commentators and you spectators|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 24 IMPs = 20-10 VPs|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: see you all in 1h, more action ahead|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|chrumchrum: 3@D makes for 110|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|udo: so flat board for the end of a very good set|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|cherilou: thanks to all and congrats to Turkey-they played well|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Our matches in round 5 are: Italy vs. Hong Kong, Singapore vs. China and Japan vs. Sweden, all from the Open event. Hope to see you all back in 1 hour and a bit|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s3|nt|bbramley: eventually play @HA and another for endplay|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s8|nt|chrumchrum: draw trumps, eliminate suits, A@H, @H |pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|cT|nt|bbramley: North now marked with a @H honor, so play is indicated|pg||
pc|c4|pc|s6|nt|chrumchrum: pretty automatic once S shows AK@D KQ@C A@S|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|baylind: wd turkey|pg||
nt|bbramley: thx everyone, see  you later|pg||
nt|udo: ty all, bye for now:)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thx all for coming this morning. See you in 1 hour. Bye for now|pg||
nt|chrumchrum: Bye all|pg||
nt|alperen: Turkey20 & USA10 wd Turkey:)|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SA3HQT7DAK65CKQ84,ST964HJ8432D82CAJ,S82HK5DJ9743C9732,SKQJ75HA96DQTCT65|sv|b|nt|curtis: should put them in the lead in their group, which I predict they won't relinquish|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|curtis: I'm of the 1N overcall school with this type|pg||
nt|granguru: Italy needs 5 imps here for a blitz.|pg||
mb|d|mb|2S|nt|swanson: I strongly favor a double with this spade holding|pg||
nt|curtis: Seems too hard to show the hand strength if you don't|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru: 3@S= 2 down|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|3S|nt|adolfod: in closed room south doubled again|pg||
nt|curtis: once again - Go where the money is|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|granguru: Exactly the same bid as in the other room|pg||
nt|swanson: Turning a plus into a minus|pg||
pc|d2|nt|curtis: this is my point - After 1N overcall you can go quietly without worrying about being stolen from|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s4|nt|swanson: This was a very  strong showing by Versace - Lauria (but normal for them).|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|cT|nt|curtis: yep - same ol' , same ol'|pg||
nt|mareczek: thx all, bye|pg||
nt|swanson: Thanks|pg||
nt|adolfod: thks all|pg||
nt|curtis: bye |pg||
nt|vugraph3: thx all|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h9|mc|8|pg||