vg|Olympiads,Round 9,I,1,20,Italy,0,Netherlands,0| rs|3SE-1,3NN-1,3DE-2,2SS-1,2NN+1,1NS=,3CN+1,3NS=,2NS-1,1NS=,4SE+2,4HE+2,2SS-3,2HE+1,2SW+2,4SW=,4SN=,4SN=,4SS=,4SS-1,6HS-1,6HS-1,1NE=,1NS=,6DNx=,5DNx+1,4SEx-1,4SWx-1,3NS=,3NS=,2DN+1,3NN=,3NN=,3NN=,2HN+1,3CE=,4SW-1,3NE-1,3NW=,3NW-3| pn|Duboin,Jansma,Bocchi,Verhees,Brink,Versace,Prooijen,Lauria|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SK762HJT9DAJ7C643,SHAQ853DKT98CK872,SQJHK4DQ642CAQJ95,SAT98543H762D53CT|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|adolfod: hi all|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|s3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|h5|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|s4|pc|d7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SQT765HKTDAT42CQ8,SKJ2HQ7432D865CK9,SA84HJ985DQ7CJ762,S93HA6DKJ93CAT543|sv|n|nt|curtis: welcome to Greece - France. Maybe we'll find out who the players are soon|pg|| nt|adolfod: hi all|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|3D|nt|nickf: Hi everyone|pg|| nt|rado: hello all|pg|| nt|nils123: hello |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s8|nt|jbgood: hi Nils and all|pg|| nt|adolfod: hi|pg|| nt|nils123: as far as i understand france is e-w and greece n-s?|pg|| nt|adolfod: one name was enough to give the explanation|pg|| nt|nils123: :) i thought u said one bid... lol|pg|| nt|curtis: looks like 2H and 2S both down|pg|| nt|vugraph196: we will start broadcast next board, thx for patience|pg|| nt|jbgood: looks right Curtis|pg|| nt|nils123: sure has some work to do here|pg|| nt|curtis: South hand is close to an overcall on the first round. Passing is an indication of partnership temperment|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|hK|pc|d6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|c5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SJ875HT85DJ96CAQ5,SAQ9HJ73DT743CK93,S64HAK2DAK852CT74,SKT32HQ964DQCJ862|sv|e|nt|dburn: or partnership somnolence :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentators for this match are Curtis Cheek, USA, Jon Sveindal and Nils Kvangraven, Norway, David Burn, England, and Adolfo Madala, Argentina. Welcome to all of you|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|nickf: AS soon as we know the players we can tell you ab it about their sytems|pg|| mb|p|nt|nickf: Hi Rado.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The link to the convention cards is www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| mb|1S|nt|rado: nice looking 4@H going down due to 4-0 break|pg|| nt|adolfod: everybody pass with north s hand in this vulnerability?|pg|| nt|mrdct: i'd be getting into the auction i think|pg|| nt|nickf: everyday except Feb 29|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|curtis: I expect the french and greeks to play a very similar, down the middle, risk averse style|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph195: welcome to istanbul all|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Henri Schweitzer, Nick Fahrer, Dave Thompson, Adolfo Madala and Radoslav Radev - your commentators for this match|pg|| nt|dburn: You mean, the Greeks won't be bearing any gifts?|pg|| mb|2D|nt|rado: hos bulduk Ercan|pg|| nt|ritong: thanks ercan hello everybody|pg|| nt|nickf: salut henri|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|adolfod: thanks|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h8|nt|curtis: :-)|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|nt|mrdct: system card can be found at http://www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|nt|adolfod: e-w did well stopping in 2 hearts|pg|| nt|nickf: Are the Poles playing Suspensor?|pg|| nt|dburn: They have obviously turned the randomiser on the dealing program down a bit. The first two matches today featured some very wild stuff.|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|s2|pg|| nt|curtis: 1st match this morning had 10 IMP decisions on every other board|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|h5|nt|nickf: not much to this hand|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cQ|nt|nickf: the austrians play Polish Club|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|cJ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJ642HT8DAJ943C62,SQT93HQJ64D6CK875,SA8HAK32DK5CAQT43,SK75H975DQT872CJ9|sv|b|nt|rado: and the Poles play Austrian club:-)|pg|| nt|nickf: and so do the Poles.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|curtis: photo for 3N. Finally something to wake up for|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|nickf: neithjer side has an 8-card fit so best to stay low.|pg|| mb|2N|nt|adolfod: 2 diamonds?|pg|| nt|ritong: considering 2@hs..|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rado: too agressive 2@H bid|pg|| nt|ritong: pretty offensive|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: zmud has achieved his 1st objective of pushing the opps up a level|pg|| nt|dburn: Indeed - the play could easily become complex here|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d6|nt|adolfod: not what he expected|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|dburn: Declarer had better win this with the king, but if the lead is 4th best he knows to do that|pg|| pc|d3|nt|adolfod: interesting|pg|| pc|c5|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| nt|dburn: or rather, he doesn't. :)|pg|| nt|curtis: the 9 didn't accomplish much and now he's limited himself to 2 diamonds when he had 3|pg|| nt|dburn: Indeed - in the space of two tricks he has irretrievably gone down|pg|| nt|curtis: another trick 1 error. I know that's where I make most of my mistakes|pg|| nt|dburn: I don't really see much hope - it's not as if the defence can mess it up somehow.|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ritong: offensive has a lighter sense in french, = enterprising :)|pg|| nt|curtis: if had started DK, D9, DA. West would experience serious pressure. |pg|| pc|cQ|nt|dburn: But if he had won the first diamond with the king, the second and third diamonds would have started to squeeze West|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|nt|dburn: who would have had either to give up tricks at once in hearts or clubs, or weaken his spade holding, which was the defence's main asset|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|nt|ritong: clearly not a reasonable bet, as game is out of the picture|pg|| nt|nickf: 4@h can be made on the previous board|pg|| pc|c6|nt|nickf: the Poles are in 3NT though on 3|pg|| nt|nickf: so a chance for an early swing back to Austria|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|curtis: the main issue was timing - could NS get clubs established before the defense set up their spades|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|d7|pg|| nt|adolfod: now he make it|pg|| nt|dburn: Having said that, the defence appears to have messed it up despite my assurance that they couldn't :)|pg|| nt|adolfod: isnt north marked with 4 hearts in the bidding?|pg|| nt|vugraph196: the discard of w not sure if h , plqyed fast|pg|| nt|nils123: rehi|pg|| nt|curtis: don't understand that, given the 3H reply to stayman west could almost call the declarer's hand|pg|| nt|vugraph196: it can be spade|pg|| nt|vugraph196: just a sec|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|cK|pg|| nt|dburn: If it was a heart, it was fatal - but since North had shown hearts (only by inference), a heart would be very odd|pg|| mc|10|nt|jbgood: re:)|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJ642HT8DAJ943C62,SQT93HQJ64D6CK875,SA8HAK32DK5CAQT43,SK75H975DQT872CJ9|sv|b|nt|jkotor: there is a rule :|pg|| nt|udo: but he will not be happy , in this moment|pg|| nt|spil: a pity when it might have been 11 imps in instead of 9 out|pg|| nt|jkotor: "if your bidding is weak, you have to be a good declarer"|pg|| nt|dinos1: hi all|pg|| mb|p|nt|migry: Hi all from sunny Tel Aviv:))|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jkotor: so, are Italians playing direct cue vs "Better minor" as either natural or 2suiter?|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|udo: to halve the board, he must make this contract , looks difficult|pg|| nt|udo: even when the lead is helpful|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|bbramley: i think he will make it|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|udo: hallo all to italy -netherlands|pg|| pc|s3|nt|jkotor: cross ruffing?|pg|| nt|udo: club lead does really help|pg|| nt|migry: hi:)|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|nt|udo: cross ruff is not enough, |pg|| nt|jkotor: then later on, he will get K@s|pg|| nt|dinos1: hi Udo|pg|| nt|fluffy: hi all|pg|| nt|migry: very nice lead from Versace|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|migry: hi:)|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s9|nt|jkotor: N will have to overruff @c with A@h|pg|| nt|spil: poor N has only the A to overuff dummy with|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dJ|nt|Walddk2: Your commentators for this match are Sergey Kustarov, Russia, Migry Zur Campanile, Israel, Gonzalo Goded, Spain, and Udo Kasimir, Germany|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to all of you|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The link to the convention cards is www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| nt|dinos1: now @dA will sqz West|pg|| nt|udo: Brink-Prooijen play 15-17 Nt and 2/1 gameforcing with 5card majors|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|jkotor: had to guess|pg|| nt|bbramley: that should do it|pg|| nt|udo: makes now:)|pg|| nt|jkotor: even i would win it now :)|pg|| nt|bbramley: passing club 9 would have made life easier|pg|| nt|jkotor: then you couldnt ruff a diamond|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|migry: Lauria Versace play natural, 5 card majors, 1@c may be only 2 cards|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c6|nt|udo: @S king, 8th trick|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|hA|nt|dinos1: hAK and @c endplay|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|d4|pc|cK|pg|| nt|udo: spade jack will be the ninth trick , nicely done by declarer|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAT93HAK42DA74CA2,SK52H63DKQ65CKQT7,SJ86HQ95DT982C943,SQ74HJT87DJ3CJ865|sv|n|nt|rado: seems like misfit boards coming today|pg|| nt|curtis: it ain't over til it's over|pg|| nt|vugraph196: discarded h and made|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: could well end in 2@s doubled|pg|| mb|2C|nt|ritong: despite the multi|pg|| nt|mrdct: 2@D is a weak 2 in a major without a strong option|pg|| nt|rado: or 2@D dbld|pg|| nt|ritong: snaeky pass now..|pg|| nt|ritong: sneaky*|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: good desicion by Bieder|pg|| nt|adolfod: should you open february 29 norths hand?|pg|| nt|ritong: take that, cezary|pg|| mb|2S|nt|dburn: Indeed - it was all over at trick one, and then back to not being all over at trick three :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: !|pg|| mb|2N|nt|adolfod: dont they play pouppet?he has to have four hearts|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, the advantage of puppet Stayman is that if you don't acutally bid hearts, the defenders forget that you have them.|pg|| nt|adolfod: lol|pg|| nt|vugraph196: director is cqlled for the previous board|pg|| nt|dburn: Doubtless to explain puppet Stayman.|pg|| nt|curtis: presumably West says he didn't get right information |pg|| nt|jbgood: The 2 NT 19-20-21 is becoming so popular now that they even note it on the x|pg|| nt|jbgood: cc|pg|| nt|vugraph196: yes , about puppet explanation|pg|| nt|dburn: Mind you, South may not have given the most complete explanation of 3@d to West|pg|| nt|nils123: a bad day for 19 .....|pg|| nt|vugraph196: no about "nt|pg|| nt|vugraph196: 3nt|pg|| nt|adolfod: but dummy reveals it, what else can be 3 hearts with 10x and four spades to the J?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|curtis: I don't understand 2N on this hand. Don't you want partner to declare given your absence of a single tenace|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: I don't mind 2NT all that much. Aces are worth more than their raw point count.|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|rado: 2@D may sirvive for down 2 only, now 2@S is disaster|pg|| nt|curtis: might have said something like "no 5 card major"|pg|| pc|c3|nt|nickf: someone do the maths for me? what will the damage be?|pg|| nt|adolfod: five top tricks, and later the trumps|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jbgood: well there is a 10ace in @s Curtis|pg|| pc|c7|nt|ritong: i stop crystal balling now:)|pg|| nt|mrdct: passing out 2@D would've been a very deep view for north to take|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| nt|dburn: Besides, you can always tell partner that you wanted the lead to run up to the @dA7|pg|| nt|curtis: good one|pg|| nt|curtis: I think he just wanted to be declarer after the previous board|pg|| nt|dburn: If West is going to defend as he did, the queue to be declarer will stretch round the block.|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jbgood: so that is why I was disconnected during that brd?|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| nt|curtis: I'm unfamiliar with Palau. Looks like the old guard is playing the Seniors this year|pg|| nt|dburn: Meanwhile, the director has presumably gone away, and South can get on with 2NT.|pg|| nt|dburn: or rather, get off in 2NT|pg|| nt|vugraph196: director will decide later|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mrdct: looks like 800 or 1100 to me|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d4|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|sJ|nt|dburn: They are good at deciding later, directors. Almost as good as the state of Florida.|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|adolfod: at least 800|pg|| nt|nickf: i think 3 more ?|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|nt|mrdct: N and W now play table tennis|pg|| nt|nickf: just AQT of spades|pg|| nt|adolfod: yes, 800|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| mc|7|nt|nickf: Eddie Knatar was a champion tennis table player|pg|| nt|adolfod: i dont understand the spade play, he has a real chance entering dummy and playing the J, if east covers he is home|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAT93HAK42DA74CA2,SK52H63DKQ65CKQT7,SJ86HQ95DT982C943,SQ74HJT87DJ3CJ865|sv|n|nt|udo: better not to open a weak-two here:)|pg|| nt|panja: dicey deal.....|pg|| nt|migry: very nicely played|pg|| nt|dinos1: y, wd|pg|| nt|fluffy: seems we got problems with score|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|bbramley: n/s don't play weak 2's, so no problem!|pg|| mb|p|nt|udo: this pass should win the board ?|pg|| nt|dburn: He can't. It would show a minimum opening bid in his methods.|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|fluffy: no, its ok :)|pg|| nt|migry: we played very fast the first 4 boards:)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|jkotor: 2@d looks like a weak bid|pg|| nt|bbramley: they're getting practice on their 6-card fits so far|pg|| nt|jkotor: last times i started to play conv here : 2@h=trsf for 2@s, either weak with long @s or any GF|pg|| pc|c5|nt|jkotor: 2@s = 10-11 5+@s|pg|| nt|udo: i think they have no game with their 25 HCP|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Libido: they started 10 minuts before they should :)|pg|| pc|s3|nt|dinos1: seems 1@d was a sort of neg response|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|udo: 1 @D = 0-7 |pg|| nt|udo: or nat or some strong hands|pg|| nt|dinos1: yes, cd be as well natural|pg|| pc|s4|nt|migry: declarer has 7 tricks now|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|dinos1: polish club style|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cT|nt|dburn: In that case, they will be pleased that they have stopped in 2@d. That is, they will be pleased for about the next two hours.|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|nt|udo: till the end, when comparing ?|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|hJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S74HJ3DJ85CKJ9643,SAKJT3HT9875DT2C2,S65HQ6DAQ7643CT75,SQ982HAK42DK9CAQ8|sv|e|nt|rado: this time both sides have good fits|pg|| nt|adolfod: and if not he is in almost the same position|pg|| nt|curtis: With everyone speaking in their 2nd or 3rd tongue it seems the players have to accept greater responsibility in understanding explanations|pg|| nt|vugraph196: director is listenning plqyers|pg|| nt|vugraph196: sorry for typing mistakes, it is a french keyboard |pg|| nt|adolfod: i insist that dummy was the better explanation|pg|| nt|vugraph196: not used to this|pg|| nt|nils123: this is my favorite hand....both majros, too strong to pass, too weak to open|pg|| nt|nils123: would u pass opening with palau hand?|pg|| nt|vugraph196: waiting director|pg|| nt|adolfod: i open and pray|pg|| nt|jbgood: he wil not get a chance|pg|| nt|curtis: Not if I was Norwegian, then open 2D |pg|| nt|nils123: hehe, not this time jon, but someday ur in 1 seat|pg|| nt|jbgood: then I open:))|pg|| mb|1C|nt|rado: 4@S for NS|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: maybe try again..|pg|| nt|mrdct: EW have two of them|pg|| nt|ritong: yep|pg|| nt|adolfod: they made 3 NT in the other room |pg|| nt|nils123: norwegians opened 2d 5 years ago, nowadays the "ekrens 2d" is not used so much|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|nils123: mabye we can see the french slam system|pg|| nt|curtis: hard to keep up. |pg|| mb|3H|nt|mrdct: playing the multi 2 without the strong option is becoming increasingly common|pg|| nt|rado: DBL should be pass or correct here|pg|| nt|nickf: yes Nth switch to a low heart at trick 3|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: showing 18-19 and balanced with 4 @s|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|nickf: 4@s can be beaten|pg|| nt|nickf: 2H and 2 clubs|pg|| nt|rado: yes with @C lead or shift|pg|| nt|nils123: greece up for a nice start here, maybe they can do the same as the football team this summer...|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: in these situations where noone knows who make what, often players bid one more|pg|| mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|nt|mrdct: always to good to get a positive on these 5-level hands|pg|| nt|ritong: not zmud, who has already told his story|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| nt|jbgood: not a good slam - only good thing is that it makes|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|sT|nt|mrdct: 2-off seems inevitable now|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|mc|12|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S74HJ3DJ85CKJ9643,SAKJT3HT9875DT2C2,S65HQ6DAQ7643CT75,SQ982HAK42DK9CAQ8|sv|e|nt|dburn: Indeed. But when you play Italy, you should be happy while you can. It may not last long.|pg|| nt|migry: he did well to try the @h first - just in case the clubs were 6-2|pg|| mb|2D|an| |nt|udo: :)|pg|| nt|migry: not the best slam but it makes in both majors|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N!|an|5/5 !|nt|udo: will produce some action|pg|| nt|jkotor: it was good board for a lesson "when to open weak 2"|pg|| nt|migry: 2@d =18-20 bal|pg|| nt|dinos1: 2@d = 18-20 bal|pg|| nt|dinos1: :)|pg|| nt|udo: played from the strong hand , needs only @H 2-2 |pg|| nt|fluffy: we luckylly have Alex alerting us some stuff :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|udo: i learned not to open it, when opps have 5 good against:))|pg|| mb|4H|an| |nt|jkotor: better to have KQJ9xx and nothing in other suits|pg|| nt|spil: and the answer is.. when it doesn't go for 800|pg|| nt|udo: yepp|pg|| nt|udo: 3 @C = fitjump @H and @C|pg|| nt|bbramley: multi players open more often with marginal hands|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|dburn: Matheson may regard that pass as forcing|pg|| nt|dburn: but Patrick may (and did) not|pg|| nt|udo: 4 @S is quickly down with club-lead and ruffs|pg|| pc|c2|nt|bbramley: tough to beat from this side|pg|| nt|udo: but he has to switch now|pg|| nt|panja: how would they manage that now?|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| nt|migry: from the east hand the slam depends only on the heart split|pg|| pc|hK|nt|dburn: They can beat this, but they won't, and...|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cA|nt|panja: Decl will eliminate reds now and then play Clubs|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d2|pc|c5|pg|| mc|12|nt|bbramley: good chance missed at both tables. didn't double 5@H at other table|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SJ98HK8DK854CAKQ2,S76H92DAQ63C98654,SQT32HT643DJT2CT7,SAK54HAQJ75D97CJ3|sv|b|nt|mrdct: EW shouldn't be too upset as there was no guarantee that were going to beat 4@S|pg|| nt|mrdct: wow - another monster hand|pg|| nt|adolfod: six clubs|pg|| nt|ritong: wow|pg|| nt|nils123: thats not a good thing for those who dont bid it :)|pg|| mb|1N|nt|nickf: too bad he is last to speak|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: unless you can find out about the double fit it is "impossible" to bid|pg|| nt|curtis: rombaut will show majors in whatever way his system allows|pg|| mb|2C|nt|ritong: bye bye @c suit|pg|| nt|ritong: i guess|pg|| nt|curtis: or papakyriak|pg|| mb|p|nt|nickf: sometimes you want to lean over and slap your partner|pg|| nt|adolfod: and still needs 2-2 hearts and the A of diamonds onside|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|nils123: maybe rombaut will find himself defending in his own suit|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|curtis: the bidding decision that hasn't changed in 40 years. When to try stayman with weak hand and 4-4 majors|pg|| mb|2S|nt|nickf: good recovery, nice 4@d cuebid|pg|| nt|adolfod: little stayman|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: short and sweet|pg|| nt|rado: good 4@D cue agreeing @C suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: fortunately for austria, east didn;t take it as 1st round control|pg|| nt|ritong: unclear 4@cs was natural, but 6 is|pg|| nt|vugraph196: 2@h explained as 4=4 majors|pg|| nt|nils123: rombaut could almost have dbl.... i would consider it in pairs..|pg|| pc|h9|nt|mrdct: one round of trumps then claim|pg|| nt|jbgood: you are still a young man Nils:))|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|mrdct: i'm told 4@C was an asking bid in @Cs|pg|| nt|nils123: :-) i thk i used to play against a rombaut in jrs some years ago, is this the same?|pg|| nt|nils123: its pretty much to gain when opps in vul, i thk most players expect 2sp to go down on his hand|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s2|nt|ritong: nice tool|pg|| nt|nickf: at least it wasnt Gerber.|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|c9|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|nils123: defence sholdnt be too hard now|pg|| nt|adolfod: if he plays trump declarer make only 2 tricks|pg|| nt|nils123: can he play anything else, he knows the whole hand by now|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|nils123: ups|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c2|nt|nils123: not the best line|pg|| pc|c6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d6|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|nils123: they did it the hard way|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SJ98HK8DK854CAKQ2,S76H92DAQ63C98654,SQT32HT643DJT2CT7,SAK54HAQJ75D97CJ3|sv|b|nt|udo: very fast here , 5 boards in front of other room:)|pg|| mb|1N|nt|bbramley: i think his @H6 was the best shot. discouraging|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|udo: another interesting hand|pg|| nt|jkotor: wow|pg|| nt|beto: 4@C?|pg|| nt|spil: a forcing 4@C followed by 5@C and then 6 for luck|pg|| nt|bbramley: in my own partnership 4@C is RKC|pg|| nt|beto: if 4@C, what should west bid?|pg|| nt|jkotor: anybody play conv 4@c here?|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, many play that 4@c over a major-suit pre-empt is a cue for the major|pg|| nt|bbramley: west should raise, he's got 3 of them|pg|| nt|jkotor: i personally play it as a short asking bid|pg|| nt|dburn: West might even cue-bid in diamonds, since he has a pretty suitable hand for clubs|pg|| nt|udo: lauria will come in with a " majors-bid " , i guess|pg|| nt|fluffy: yes, jsut 2 boards, Italy colecting a total 5 down and 8 IMPs :)|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|udo: agree, when 4 @C is nat|pg|| nt|bbramley: in other room Bocchi just jumped to 5@C with east|pg|| nt|dburn: John Matheson certainly doesn't play 4@c as conventional. Indeed, he was only recently persuaded to play 2@c as conventional over 1NT.|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 2@c - landy|pg|| mb|2H|nt|udo: 6 now clearcut ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: Very much so|pg|| nt|beto: w done|pg|| nt|udo: and versace will not ´be happy:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|bbramley: patrick has been having a hard go so far. this result should please him.|pg|| nt|jkotor: should we analize play?|pg|| nt|udo: 2 @D = same lenght in both majors|pg|| pc|cA|nt|spil: a rather better trump fit this time |pg|| nt|migry: not so terrible as long as south can't play trumps|pg|| pc|c4|nt|dburn: Declarer is likely to draw trumps.|pg|| nt|udo: some double-squeeze ?.)))))|pg|| nt|dburn: He may duck this trick, to rectify the count...|pg|| nt|udo: haha|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| nt|bbramley: disappointing for north. he must have had high hopes after the 3@S bid.|pg|| nt|dburn: Fantoni is wondering whether to overtake this diamond and try for a spade ruff, I guess|pg|| nt|dburn: but Nunes would not have led the king if that were the right defence|pg|| nt|bbramley: north will play his trumps|pg|| nt|dinos1: quite happy with @dAQ :)|pg|| nt|migry: he will probably make it|pg|| nt|udo: @D-finesse right and at least 1 @S-ruff |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|spil: in any case a @S trick could hardly disappear|pg|| nt|dinos1: def cant lead trumps|pg|| nt|fluffy: can´t be shortened with @c10 falling|pg|| nt|udo: all speaks for making it|pg|| nt|migry: i don't think he minds using his small trumps:)|pg|| nt|dinos1: shortening is what declarer wants|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|fluffy: yeah right he will do it himself probably|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|sQ|pc|h5|pc|c2|pg|| nt|dinos1: 9 tricks|pg|| nt|udo: yes|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|d6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|c8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2S962HAQJDQJ9CKT98,SAT743HK5DAK743CA,SKJHT74DT852CQ432,SQ85H98632D6CJ765|sv|o|nt|ritong: if 4@ds show no control at all, not even 3rd round, is perfect|pg|| nt|nils123: a nice game hand, would u bid it up jon?|pg|| nt|vugraph196: board 4 director decided that score will stand|pg|| nt|adolfod: of course|pg|| mb|1C|nt|mrdct: it's also been suggested to me that 4@D showed 3 card support|pg|| nt|rado: not 3rd round control means 3+ fit LOL|pg|| nt|adolfod: thats my opinion too|pg|| nt|ritong: third round ctr = queen or xx|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|mrdct: north may be wishing he bid 1@S in the 1st round|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: seems like smoothly down 1|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|rado: ops, partscore battle|pg|| mb|p|nt|nils123: surely now after 1n, though bidding of rombaut|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|adolfod: short battle|pg|| nt|mrdct: and they land in their 8-card fit|pg|| nt|nils123: guess there will be some @d ruffs and making|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: it's funny how world-class players manage to do that|pg|| nt|adolfod: this lead cost a trick|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| nt|adolfod: if they play forcing no trump is clear to bid, later 2spades will show something like his hand, dont you agree?|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|h2|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|rado: the bidding suggested trump lead, but unfortunatelly costs trick|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|nt|curtis: now tough guess on spade shift|pg|| nt|nils123: well, i know some players to pass 1@s...|pg|| nt|jbgood: not a very good game - but will make - and is a nice illustration of being able to bid 1Nt on meager values if you have some supp in prd's suit|pg|| pc|s8|nt|nils123: not realy, is there a winning line if @d or @s dont break?|pg|| nt|curtis: true - not a good idea to speak before thinking|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|curtis: sort of like playing too quickly at trick one. Comes back to bite you|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cT|nt|nickf: no he can always duck a trick to West can't he?|pg|| pc|s3|nt|adolfod: he will make 11 tricks|pg|| nt|nils123: makes anyway, loose 2d and 1 spade or opposit|pg|| pc|c2|nt|rado: J107 after 98 in trumps|pg|| nt|nickf: ok|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s4|nt|nils123: he even wins a beer ... @d 7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pc|s9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2S962HAQJDQJ9CKT98,SAT743HK5DAK743CA,SKJHT74DT852CQ432,SQ85H98632D6CJ765|sv|o|nt|dburn: very true. But someone asked me to analyse the play, so I was misanalysing it as usual :)|pg|| nt|jkotor: 3@c looks ok here for NS|pg|| nt|dinos1: good tempo :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|spil: :)|pg|| nt|udo: 4@S|pg|| nt|dinos1: 3@d|pg|| mb|3D|nt|udo: in open it went down , after bocchi lead a small @H, and declarer played.......low|pg|| nt|udo: north was declarer , of course|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: could be slam|pg|| nt|migry: with everything well placed it will be an easy make for versace |pg|| nt|udo: so italy had 3 small gains , and the netherlands won 10 for the 3 NT with endplay, |pg|| nt|udo: 10:10|pg|| mb|3H!|nt|jkotor: 2NT now?|pg|| nt|jkotor: should it be for minors?|pg|| nt|udo: yes|pg|| nt|fluffy: on Board 4 it seems Bocci accepted to play just part score despite having 18 HCP, after partner used 'moderateur'|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|beto: maybe, waht is the double?|pg|| nt|bbramley: maybe south will dbl, then bid 2nt over 2@S|pg|| nt|udo: responsive|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, double might be for minors|pg|| nt|beto: with 4@S he could hv bid it|pg|| nt|jkotor: or maybe double stays|pg|| nt|dburn: but if 2NT were for minors, then double should be for penalty|pg|| mb|p|nt|udo: yes|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|udo: same as 1 @H -X-2@H -X|pg|| nt|bbramley: these guys all play dbl="do something, I have a few high cards"|pg|| nt|dinos1: 3@h = Iwant but I'm scared? :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jkotor: now 3@c looks like a guessing shot|pg|| nt|panja: Nunes' double might be to check if Fantoni's dbl wasnt with Heart length|pg|| mb|p|nt|migry: i guess 3@h shows a very minimum hand and pass asked for more info - now versace settles for game|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|panja: WIth opening hand+ and Hearts, Fantoni would have had to pass first time, so......|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|s2|nt|migry: 3@h = i don't want and i'm not scared - Lauria never is:)|pg|| nt|dinos1: :))|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|nt|migry: do we have an undo here?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|udo: i play fantonis double either strong with @S or take-out|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|sQ|nt|udo: p must see it:)|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|c6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|c9|pg|| nt|migry: i was surprised - never saw Versace going down in such a game:)|pg|| nt|dinos1: sure :))|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SJ6542HJ2DQ97CAT5,S8HKT9874DJT3CJ96,SAKQT93HDA62C8742,S7HAQ653DK854CKQ3|sv|e|nt|nils123: or maybe that is a wine in france|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|3N|nt|rado: EW may try 3NT here|pg|| mb|4H|nt|nils123: prefer to bid 2h instead of dbl, but a matter of style i guess|pg|| mb|4S|nt|rado: against polish 1@C, 2@C is widely used as natural overcall|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: 2@h look safe , under a form or another|pg|| nt|curtis: good pressure bid at these colors|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|adolfod: 5 hearts 500 and the chance that they bid 5 spades one down|pg|| pc|hA|nt|rado: 2@D-transfer to @H maybe|pg|| pc|h2|nt|nickf: nice tool.|pg|| nt|curtis: I agree with good hearts and a good hand. Can always double on the next round|pg|| pc|h4|nt|rado: nice way to show invitation with @H suit and @C fit|pg|| nt|ritong: suspects 8 top trix|pg|| nt|adolfod: dont you think that south may double 2 diamonds?|pg|| nt|nickf: but 3NT ok.|pg|| nt|ritong: vulnerable..|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|nils123: wonder what palau would have bid if it went 1@s-2@h-4@s|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ritong: good.|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|rado: doubling 2@D would show stronegr type of 1@C opening, now it' weak NT anyway|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|nt|adolfod: even if 2 diamonds is transfer?|pg|| pc|h3|pc|sJ|nt|ritong: gives supplementary bids to opps with no real compensation|pg|| nt|adolfod: 5 hearts, I think|pg|| nt|nils123: if bid 5@h im sure papa would bid 5@s|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|ritong: except claim " i exist"!:)|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|nt|adolfod: in this case may take them off of 3 NT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|adolfod: who can blame him?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| mc|10|nt|nils123: nobody but the one who delt the cards.... he can have his laugh :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SJ6542HJ2DQ97CAT5,S8HKT9874DJT3CJ96,SAKQT93HDA62C8742,S7HAQ653DK854CKQ3|sv|e|nt|udo: sy, either strong with @H or take-out|pg|| nt|beto: 3NT?|pg|| nt|bbramley: 3nt here, strange contract in other room|pg|| nt|udo: looks good , yes|pg|| nt|udo: open bidding weakNT - double - 2 @S - 4 @H|pg|| nt|dburn: Indeed - another chance for Scotland, who have missed a couple of them but are still in touch|pg|| nt|Libido: he played 3 cards at the same time :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|udo: south opened a weak NT|pg|| mb|4S|nt|bbramley: but south will start with 1NT here also|pg|| mb|p|nt|migry: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: He will, and now it will not be at all easy for East-West to bid game|pg|| nt|dburn: or perhaps to bid at all over South's 2@s (even 3@s)|pg|| nt|migry: another easy one|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s8|nt|fluffy: 5@h would be 500 I think, no biggie but it would gain a lot if they bid 5@s|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c4|nt|migry: declarer will probably ruff some hearts and play clubs|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|migry: or just try for the 3-3 in clubs before commiting himself to the @d suit|pg|| pc|cA|nt|dburn: Still, they don't have to bid at all to gain quite a few IMPs here|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|migry: as it is everything works|pg|| nt|dinos1: @hK is marked in West's hand so @dK is on|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|bbramley: they can beat this 2 tricks with a ruff|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|fluffy: for the newcomers you can read all player´s systems at www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h6|pc|sJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|migry: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Istanbul.04/Istanbul.htm is the official WBF web site for results|pg|| nt|migry: that unfortunately r not yet updated|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAJ96HKJ5DAJCKJ94,S74HA62DQ8742CAT2,SQT532HQT98D63C85,SK8H743DKT95CQ763|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|nils123: another game|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jbgood: making|pg|| mb|2N|nt|nils123: same bid as some boards ago, 4@s show 18-19 bal|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: conservative 2@C form Balicki|pg|| mb|3H|nt|nickf: the 800 earlier was flat|pg|| mb|p|nt|nils123: like the other hand show how important its to keep it up with few points and nice distribution|pg|| nt|curtis: I admit I'd only have raised to 3. all those jacks... and each one working|pg|| nt|jbgood: or will he play @cs for 2 losers?|pg|| nt|nils123: papa still can go down, misguess the club after a diamond lead|pg|| mb|3S|nt|jbgood: nice lead- jacks are the working class heros Curtis|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|adolfod: he has to guess clubs |pg|| nt|curtis: defense gets the necessary lead. Cold on any other|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|curtis: I think he guesses it. Any takers?|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h9|nt|nickf: ouch|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|nt|nils123: i trust papa|pg|| nt|adolfod: if declarer place palau with KQ diamonds an A hearts he may play clubs wrong|pg|| nt|curtis: right|pg|| nt|jbgood: right|pg|| nt|curtis: that's his only real clue|pg|| nt|vugraph196: papa is looking at cc of french pair|pg|| pc|d5|nt|curtis: greeks are distrusting ever since the peloponessian wars|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|nils123: anther way of winning time|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ritong: stopped in time:)|pg|| nt|ritong: to draw trumps|pg|| nt|adolfod: but austria made four spades in the next board|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAJ96HKJ5DAJCKJ94,S74HA62DQ8742CAT2,SQT532HQT98D63C85,SK8H743DKT95CQ763|sv|b|nt|dinos1: 5imps to Netherland at b.5|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|an| |nt|udo: all in all, we have many strange contracts in this match, like the 3 @C here in the open room|pg|| mb|1D|nt|panja: and the 4@H in other room on last deal|pg|| nt|beto: if fantoni bids 3@C this may be the contract here too|pg|| mb|1H!|an|4+!S|nt|bbramley: other room bid 1@H-DBL-P-3@C|pg|| nt|udo: everybodys double ?|pg|| nt|dinos1: trf by N|pg|| mb|1S!|nt|bbramley: yes, i double|pg|| nt|beto: me too|pg|| nt|jkotor: i m in|pg|| nt|beto: 3nt now?|pg|| nt|bbramley: chance to find spades at expense of sometimes finding clubs|pg|| nt|migry: and Lauria obliges:)|pg|| nt|dinos1: both bid what they dont have :))|pg|| nt|dinos1: cue = good @d raise|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|udo: most of time, we find, what we are not looking for:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|udo: hi all, back, broke down completely:)|pg|| nt|fluffy: seems game will make if guess @c|pg|| nt|Libido: A@D,J@D? :)|pg|| pc|d6|nt|udo: he can save some imps, i guess , 3 down is a lot|pg|| nt|panja: if South's dbl is Spades-centric, the 3@C bid seems out of tune|pg|| nt|jkotor: true, mostly not welcome part hand is 2344|pg|| nt|bbramley: i've noticed that it's often right to bid 3NT over 3@C with hands like south's. would save 5 imps here.|pg|| nt|beto: if defense can fin their 5 tricks...|pg|| pc|dK|nt|beto: find|pg|| nt|udo: agree bart, cannot make the contract worse, and sometimes you get a surprising 600|pg|| nt|beto: else you make 3@D, 4@S and 2@H|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|migry: AJ@d looks like a good start|pg|| nt|dinos1: @dA @h to 10|pg|| nt|udo: correct, club-guess necessary|pg|| nt|migry: or heart as he needs that entry sooner or later|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| nt|fluffy: no hurry by now|pg|| nt|migry: after finding the K@d and the K@s with east it will be quite easy to guess the @c |pg|| nt|dinos1: @sK on is a must so...|pg|| nt|udo: club ace must be with versace|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| nt|fluffy: 1@d overcall with 9 HCP is something happens frequently|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|nt|beto: i believe the point is that you are already at the 3-lvl.....|pg|| nt|udo: he will not end -3|pg|| nt|bbramley: will win 5 anyway|pg|| nt|udo: @C|pg|| pc|h4|nt|fluffy: 1@s cue is done with just 6-9?|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|udo: yes|pg|| nt|migry: he is a passed hand |pg|| nt|udo: odds are for @C-ace with versace, but lets see:)|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|bbramley: why not trump?|pg|| pc|d4|nt|dinos1: and bad suit? vul?|pg|| pc|s3|nt|migry: not 1@d vul with Qxxxx|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hT|nt|udo: ok, so -1 , and 5 imps for italy|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c6|nt|fluffy: we all have seen worse things :)|pg|| pc|c4|nt|migry: i bet he guesses|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|udo: me too|pg|| nt|fluffy: me too|pg|| nt|udo: coke out ?|pg|| nt|migry: and Sergey wd never bet against me - so no bets:)|pg|| nt|dinos1: never :))|pg|| nt|udo: hm:)|pg|| nt|migry: if Lauria wd have overcalled 1@d it would have been a different matter |pg|| nt|migry: but Versace is more solid|pg|| nt|fluffy: I thnk he is asking about the exact maning of 1@s|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| nt|dinos1: wow|pg|| nt|udo: :))))))|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SQ5HQJT764DAJ7CQ5,S962HDKQT98532CT2,SKJT3HA952DCAKJ63,SA874HK83D64C9874|sv|o|nt|nickf: and the poles missed the slam|pg|| nt|adolfod: poland did not ruff a club|pg|| nt|nils123: cant trust papa no more... lol|pg|| nt|curtis: talk to my bookie about collecting on that one|pg|| nt|adolfod: I cant stop thinking in someone who should be happy looking at this match, Victor Mollo|pg|| nt|curtis: why's that?|pg|| mb|1H|mb|4D|nt|mrdct: 6@S look pretty reasonable|pg|| mb|5D|nt|nils123: i would bid 5d over 1@h|pg|| nt|adolfod: dont you remember Papa, the enemy of the Hog?|pg|| nt|curtis: papa's going to take it in no matter what|pg|| nt|curtis: of course|pg|| nt|nils123: seems like 6@h 1 down is on the way|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: and 6 will make unless Palau leads a @s!|pg|| nt|curtis: rombaut can be the rabbit|pg|| nt|nils123: true|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|nt|nils123: intresting hand|pg|| nt|curtis: papa will think of 7 now|pg|| nt|jbgood: a heafty 6@H!!|pg|| nt|nils123: wow, agresive bid by filios, no black cue-bid....|pg|| nt|adolfod: did filios like his A of diamonds?|pg|| nt|jbgood: only think about 7?|pg|| nt|nils123: maybe he fell in love with his queens....|pg|| nt|vugraph196: yes think about 7|pg|| nt|jbgood: transferred it to the @sA|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|nt|curtis: best not to take extreme positions after high level preempts|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: wont be easy to reach it though|pg|| nt|curtis: papa passes prudently|pg|| nt|jbgood: Papa knows his papenheimers:)|pg|| nt|nils123: filios could have bid 5s if ace|pg|| nt|adolfod: now he makes it|pg|| nt|adolfod: throw the spades in the clubs, oops|pg|| mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|nils123: yes, play hq and overtake to play clubs|pg|| nt|curtis: I think Rombaut plays the unlucky armenian on this hand|pg|| pc|sA|nt|ritong: low profile when preempted is a good long run strategy , is commonly admitted|pg|| nt|nickf: the austrians are playing a tough game at this table opposite ones of the best pairs in the world|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|s4|nt|adolfod: no doubt|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| nt|jbgood: no doubt??|pg|| nt|nils123: is this true?|pg|| nt|curtis: no way!|pg|| nt|adolfod: I cant believe it|pg|| nt|vugraph196: yes true|pg|| nt|curtis: He's back to being the rueful rabbit|pg|| nt|nils123: maybe he likes to gamle in both play and bid... lol|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SQ5HQJT764DAJ7CQ5,S962HDKQT98532CT2,SKJT3HA952DCAKJ63,SA874HK83D64C9874|sv|o|nt|dinos1: so better play with odds :)|pg|| mb|1H|nt|migry: oh well, lucky nobody wanted to bet:)|pg|| mb|4D|nt|sommer: coke for me :))|pg|| nt|fluffy: wow|pg|| nt|migry: hey, you are from another movie:)|pg|| nt|udo: now north has a great hand|pg|| nt|sommer: yes, sry to interrupt:)|pg|| nt|migry: you r more than welcome:))|pg|| nt|fluffy: no problem ;)|pg|| nt|udo: could be diff. to stop short of slam|pg|| nt|fluffy: I think they´ll end in 6|pg|| nt|dinos1: who won't? :)|pg|| nt|fluffy: those who stop in 7 :))|pg|| nt|dinos1: rite lol|pg|| nt|dinos1: the only thoughts now are about 7, I thk|pg|| nt|Libido: 6@H is makeable w/o @S lead|pg|| mb|5D|nt|udo: next chance for scotland , 6 is icecold|pg|| nt|dburn: This is yet another chance for Scotland to win some IMPs - they have one slam swing already...|pg|| nt|panja: weak only because of third seat|pg|| nt|bbramley: 2@H = nat, 10-13|pg|| nt|panja: else, NS play 10-13 2 level openings|pg|| nt|dburn: ...but this one is not very easy to bid at all|pg|| nt|dinos1: ...5@h-6@h|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|nt|migry: i think the @d lead is out of question now|pg|| nt|dinos1: Lauria will lead it|pg|| nt|Libido: but 7 is always off :)|pg|| nt|udo: @S or it makes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|migry: he may lead a @c but certainly not a @d|pg|| nt|dinos1: sry - Versace on lead :)|pg|| nt|udo: i bet for @D king !|pg|| nt|udo: guess somebody needs a coke|pg|| nt|dinos1: no sense|pg|| nt|migry: i bet against|pg|| pc|s2|nt|panja: 4@C would have been better than 4@S|pg|| nt|migry: yes:)))|pg|| nt|dinos1: great!|pg|| nt|ghost: nell'altra sala continua il momento...."si"|pg|| nt|sommer: Alfredo strikes back :)|pg|| nt|udo: lady , one coke with air-mail!|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|migry: thank you:)))|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|udo: alfredo in his best !|pg|| nt|dinos1: so never bet ag Migry even when she's wrong :))|pg|| nt|Libido: Versace said in malmo "If U want bad lead let do it my pd" :)|pg|| nt|migry: some more coming from the northern part of israel:) Yaniv?:)|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SK85HKQJ6DK943C72,SAJT63HT95DJ7CQJ9,S974H87DAT2CA8543,SQ2HA432DQ865CKT6|sv|n|nt|ritong: tuszinski, less well-eqipped probably, settled for 4 @hs|pg|| nt|nickf: he bid 3S-4H|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: comparing scores - "They lead a @s to the ace and I was dead"|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|curtis: as he slides papa 100 euros to keep his mouth shut|pg|| mb|1N|nt|adolfod: "they led K of diamonds and you will kill me"|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: my " bye byèe @cs" wud have been better other table, then :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|nickf: I think West should show preference to 2@s|pg|| nt|ritong: amazing|pg|| nt|ritong: no game try at all|pg|| nt|nils123: not even 100 euro would have stopped me if was pd here....|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|nt|curtis: what would you bid with North on the second round? I'm a fan of the 3 card raise|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|ritong: or some sophisticated developements unknown of us|pg|| nt|nils123: a nice 110 to france|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|nt|nils123: 2@c is ok, but 2@d works nice if 4card opening|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|nt|nickf: in other matches Italy lead Scotland 30-8|pg|| nt|nickf: and Brazil lead Sweden 15-13|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c5|pc|h2|nt|nickf: Australia lead Estonaia but a few|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h6|mc|7|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SK85HKQJ6DK943C72,SAJT63HT95DJ7CQJ9,S974H87DAT2CA8543,SQ2HA432DQ865CKT6|sv|n|nt|udo: slam would be better reached with a X for start and possible @D - splinter later|pg|| nt|udo: the last 2 boards could bring about 25 imps for italy, depends on open-room-results|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bbramley: could nail them for 500 in 2@D|pg|| nt|panja: NS could go for -500 if forced to bid at 2 level|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bbramley: but hard for east to sit it with a singleton|pg|| mb|p|nt|udo: everybodys pass with south?|pg|| nt|dinos1: no|pg|| nt|udo: 1@H ?|pg|| nt|fluffy: 1@h to me, ,evn on this vulnerability|pg|| nt|migry: vulnerable i pass|pg|| mb|1N|nt|udo: XX forces 2 @C ?|pg|| nt|panja: the drawback of the idea of SOS redouble..........|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: 1@h|pg|| mb|p|nt|udo: so pass would force p to XX|pg|| nt|bbramley: looks like wires crossed about the rdbl|pg|| mb|p|nt|udo: CC doesnt say something about this redouble|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|nt|dinos1: makes due to fall of @h109|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|udo: but he must guess 3 @H-round , fall or finesse ?|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| nt|udo: small @S was unusual 1. round ? allowed the duck|pg|| nt|migry: not easy to finesse now:)|pg|| nt|fluffy: there is another line trying to develop @c, hoping to lose jsut 2@c,3@s and 1@h, but being vulnerable there is too much risk of going 2 off|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|nt|udo: huge italian result in the open|pg|| pc|c9|nt|spil: redouble is single suited|pg|| nt|bbramley: meanwhile italy has a remarkable result in other room|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|nt|dinos1: rather try @d to 10 but not now|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c4|nt|udo: ok 7 in the end ?|pg|| nt|fluffy: ok in the other room they are playing the dangerous boards now|pg|| nt|udo: the 2 big ones :))|pg|| nt|udo: Lauria feels squeezed now, and would really be it , holding the @H for example|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d3|pg|| nt|dinos1: @d and @cK for pitch|pg|| nt|fluffy: they are playing 4@s as well on board 10|pg|| nt|udo: any bets ? about the 4 @S|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c5|pc|d6|nt|dinos1: :)) no bets|pg|| nt|migry: i BET they make:)|pg|| nt|fluffy: I wanna know the bidding first :)|pg|| nt|udo: i am in cook - giving - mood|pg|| nt|dinos1: the same bidding?|pg|| nt|fluffy: @d was led as well|pg|| nt|fluffy: declared started with @h to dummy and draw trumps|pg|| nt|migry: can someone pls tell declarer that he can claim?|pg|| nt|migry: he can discard the club |pg|| nt|fluffy: yes, ,I think Grzegorz can, jsut that they won´t let any other BBO operator near a bridge table ever again probably|pg|| nt|migry: did it happen?|pg|| nt|fluffy: would|pg|| nt|migry: :)|pg|| nt|fluffy: sorry, I still learning proper english ;)|pg|| nt|migry: your english is very good and certainly better than my spanish:)|pg|| nt|fluffy: ok, he maded 4@s|pg|| nt|udo: he ahs an option ?? guess he needs 3 @H s |pg|| nt|dinos1: still thk?|pg|| nt|fluffy: thx japie for broadcasting :)|pg|| nt|udo: has|pg|| nt|migry: i guess someone is taking a break:)|pg|| nt|udo: the 4 @S was made, without opposite bidding|pg|| nt|migry: another coke for me, by any chance?:)|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|dinos1: option is @c-@d sqz on East|pg|| nt|Libido: coffeee... pliiiz :)|pg|| nt|fluffy: I think you may check now for 8th round results, now updated|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| nt|fluffy: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Istanbul.04/Istanbul.htm|pg|| nt|udo: next board they are in 6 @h too|pg|| nt|udo: and lead is a ...........|pg|| nt|migry: sp|pg|| nt|udo: @S , so a push !|pg|| nt|fluffy: @s lead|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|nt|udo: great push !|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|dT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|dQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SQ2HAKT9DJ74CJT87,ST953H765D5CAK543,SHQJ2DAQT98632C92,SAKJ8764H843DKCQ6|sv|b|nt|vugraph196: break for few min|pg|| nt|nils123: maybe papa can give us som action now|pg|| nt|nils123: open 1@d or pree on this hand...... i prefer 1@d|pg|| nt|curtis: expect the auction to go 4D-4S-5D-5S ... much rides on Papa's choice of openings|pg|| nt|curtis: I go big.|pg|| nt|jbgood: with a void in @s I would consider bidding a number of @ds|pg|| nt|nils123: 1 would geuss, 1@d-3@s-p-4@s-5@d, p p p |pg|| nt|adolfod: I have to go away,thanks you all|pg|| nt|curtis: bye|pg|| nt|jbgood: sure south would utter smthing!|pg|| mb|4D|nt|ritong: calm hand|pg|| nt|jbgood: bye Adolfo|pg|| nt|curtis: I don't see overcalling 3S, if West can raise spades early he won't feel compelled to compete over 5D|pg|| mb|4S|nt|nils123: 4@d give away possible 3n and heart fit... a bit strong dont u thk?|pg|| nt|curtis: yes, but as we've seen in this match it pays to make them guess|pg|| mb|5D|nt|jbgood: ok with me|pg|| nt|nils123: true, now get the chance to dbl 5s, if papa dont bid one more time|pg|| mb|5S|mb|6D|mb|p|nt|adolfod: 4 hearts n-s, may them bid it?|pg|| nt|nils123: now rombaut needs to lead good|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: papa is here|pg|| nt|curtis: good call. Another lead problem|pg|| mb|d|nt|nils123: come to papa....|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: i like adam's 2hs|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: 22 hcp and 2 flat hands - never easy|pg|| nt|ritong: passing facing a passed part is not reasonable|pg|| nt|jbgood: getting a @h lead?|pg|| nt|curtis: who's your daddy?|pg|| pc|sA|nt|nickf: what were his alternatives henri?|pg|| nt|nils123: rombaut pretty happy with @s ace and trumf king|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|ritong: pass|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|nils123: maybe papa make the diamond finesse|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|nickf: no...that would be unreaonable...i agree|pg|| nt|ritong: i know a lot of ppl who do that, explaining " 12 hcp" facing a passed hand|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|jbgood: still has to drop the @d king - not over yet|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|nt|curtis: I hate the spade lead. North 100% to be void|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| nt|nils123: now get the same 2 down as if lead club|pg|| nt|jbgood: if you do not take the right view when given a chance - you should not bid that much:)|pg|| mc|12|nt|ritong: adam's hand is nice, evn w 12|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SQ2HAKT9DJ74CJT87,ST953H765D5CAK543,SHQJ2DAQT98632C92,SAKJ8764H843DKCQ6|sv|b|nt|Vugraph805: 11@D's/11@S's :)|pg|| mb|3D|mb|3S|nt|udo: in the open room , strange 3-seat-pass with 4-4 majors and 12 HCP , not my choice|pg|| nt|udo: 4@S -1 , 5 @D depends on how to play D s|pg|| nt|dinos1: and 22TNT? :)))|pg|| nt|migry: 6@d may make on a @s lead|pg|| nt|migry: percentage to play for 1-1|pg|| nt|fluffy: you think anyone would double 5@s?|pg|| mb|4D|mb|4S|mb|5D|nt|bbramley: agree, i like 1@H|pg|| nt|udo: votes for this pass ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|migry: north south play 4@d as a natural preempt so i wonder why did north chose 3|pg|| nt|dinos1: thk dbl 5@d? :))|pg|| nt|migry: in order to raise himself i guess|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|panja: Not me|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: good 4@d bid|pg|| nt|udo: 3 rounds of Club now:)|pg|| nt|fluffy: I hate to guess those stiff @dKs|pg|| pc|sA|nt|bbramley: game if they had bid it|pg|| nt|Vugraph805: +1?|pg|| nt|udo: lead of Club-queen is not to find, now declarer must guess it|pg|| nt|migry: not this time - they can't get ALL the leads right |pg|| nt|migry: normal to play A@d and hearts |pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|fluffy: oh yeah, no way to come to a @d guess actually|pg|| nt|udo: yes, agree, should make now|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|migry: or not|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|udo: play the jack and raise if not covered:)|pg|| nt|migry: anti percentage to finesse|pg|| nt|dinos1: play for kids? :)|pg|| nt|udo: yes!!|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| nt|dinos1: having h3-3|pg|| nt|udo: ok +1|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SK6HAQ7432D52CKQ9,SJ9853HJDAJ76C876,SQHT85DK98CAJT432,SAT742HK96DQT43C5|sv|o|nt|nickf: austrai by 13 now after 9 bds|pg|| nt|curtis: ya - buy it for 5|pg|| nt|jbgood: maybe not bid 6@d?|pg|| nt|nils123: dont push if cant handle the pressure|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|4S|nt|nils123: intresting game hand again, nice save in 4s|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|curtis: 6H down 1 was pushed when South passed north in a cue bid|pg|| nt|jbgood: strange that so few imps have changed hands - bridge has not been perfect:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|nils123: i would open on both e-w hands, diffrences in style with the french|pg|| mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c6|nt|adolfod: can make it|pg|| pc|cA|nt|mrdct: this is a helpful lead|pg|| nt|nickf: takes a @h ruff in hand|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|curtis: the courage of youth|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s2|nt|dburn: I think North's double was more an expression of affront than a belief that he could beat the contract|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|nils123: well, they found the same, but over 1nt... |pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|curtis: Is Palau just trying to keep the pressure up? Game opposite PH is pushy|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|dburn: As it happens, of course, he can beat the contract, but only because his @dK is a trick, and his partner has a useful spade|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|nils123: 100 is always better than 50, isnt it?|pg|| nt|jbgood: about twice as much|pg|| nt|dburn: Depends on whether you are playing bridge or being breathalyzed|pg|| nt|nils123: realy brings u back in business after going down in 2 making slams.. lol|pg|| nt|jbgood: lol|pg|| nt|curtis: Papa's not going to take it lying down. Time to fight|pg|| mc|9|nt|nils123: i thk his dbl was his last question to the card god, if this goes down i will start belive in u again....|pg|| nt|curtis: He would be surprised to know he's only down by a partscore swing|pg|| nt|dburn: God, it has been wisely said, helps those who help themselves. The proverb says nothing about those who go around taking phantom sacrifices.|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SK6HAQ7432D52CKQ9,SJ9853HJDAJ76C876,SQHT85DK98CAJT432,SAT742HK96DQT43C5|sv|o|mb|p|nt|bbramley: i transfer with west. and you?|pg|| nt|udo: 4@H NS seems ok|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|migry: 4@s is a very good sacrifice|pg|| nt|udo: only down 1 ?|pg|| nt|fluffy: anther swing for netherlands, both lines making 1NT|pg|| nt|migry: on a good day 4@s makes - here only 1 down|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|udo: the scottish pair had lots of chances, more as you get usually against Italy , but they took not often their advantage|pg|| nt|panja: must transfer, could be 54 fit, and Spades are useless in 2Nt|pg|| nt|jkotor: this board shows advantages of Polish style|pg|| nt|udo: all agree mathesons pass ? or transfer ?|pg|| nt|jkotor: 1@c(polish) - 1@d (mostly 0-6, but some other hands) - 1nt (18-21)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|dinos1: anyone for 1@s o/call? :)|pg|| nt|migry: versace:)|pg|| mb|d|nt|udo: me not, but never argue with success|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: :))|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|migry: i am more for a 1@s opening with east:)|pg|| pc|h8|nt|udo: so par-score reached ,and a very good board for italy, not easy to come in with the @S|pg|| nt|dinos1: recall discussion on 1@d o/call :)|pg|| nt|fluffy: 6@d at the other table|pg|| pc|h6|nt|panja: it is impossible to do the right thing all the time after 2Nt opening, it is the fault of the opening|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|migry: that one was vulnerable and 1@d|pg|| nt|udo: lead ?:))) |pg|| nt|migry: A@s|pg|| nt|fluffy: still bidding, 6@d was doubled, maybe lightner double?|pg|| nt|fluffy: @sA!|pg|| nt|migry: he still has to guess|pg|| nt|udo: so 5 @D X +1 will cost a lot of imps:))|pg|| nt|migry: maybe|pg|| nt|udo: when he guesses @D s|pg|| nt|migry: he NEEDS to find the diamond|pg|| nt|fluffy: yeah on 6@d you HAVE to guess @d, not like 5@D|pg|| nt|udo: of course:)|pg|| nt|migry: and he thinks|pg|| nt|migry: he played the J@d |pg|| nt|migry: and thinks|pg|| nt|udo: italy makes this right usually |pg|| nt|fluffy: as Itold, 50% plays with 20-30 IMPS involved are awful|pg|| nt|migry: 21 IMP on this card|pg|| pc|d5|nt|migry: i have another computer in the same room AND an ITALIAN husband:)|pg|| nt|udo: wow,|pg|| nt|dinos1: :))|pg|| nt|migry: that's what he says|pg|| nt|migry: still thinking|pg|| nt|fluffy: they are held in a @d trick in the other room, jsut as we|pg|| pc|d7|nt|beto: maybe with trump spade dummy can score some tricks, i would hv transfered|pg|| pc|dK|nt|udo: me too|pg|| nt|panja: I like to term it as "offside opening" too far too soon|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|migry: at the other table east bid 4@s so it's a bit more dificult to get the @d right|pg|| nt|udo: still thinking?|pg|| nt|migry: yes|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|migry: ACE|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|nt|udo: so next swing for italy |pg|| pc|hA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|fluffy: guessed|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| nt|migry: and i have a feeling u all could hear my happy husband:)|pg|| nt|fluffy: :)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAKJ5HQT73DT94CQ2,ST942H984DJ753CA9,S8HA52DAQ62CKJ754,SQ763HKJ6DK8CT863|sv|n|nt|ritong: the rythm is excellent, board 15 now & i feel like it began 10 minutes ago|pg|| nt|vugraph195: they play very fast hard to follow up|pg|| mb|1C|nt|mrdct: we are a few boards ahead of the closed room|pg|| mb|p|nt|nils123: another nice working hand for papa, maybe filios can help him too|pg|| nt|dburn: I make no such assertion. I mention only that the motto of the French team used to be "In Chemla we trust".|pg|| mb|2C|nt|nickf: 15 bds in 70 minutes |pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: nice job,ercan :) sagol|pg|| mb|2D|nt|nickf: its like the bridge on BBO - |pg|| mb|p|nt|nickf: speedball|pg|| mb|2H|nt|nils123: it sure helped them for 40 years, now they need a new boss|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|mrdct: heading for 3nt i expect|pg|| nt|curtis: a nice treatment. 3M = short|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|dburn: If East really has bid 3NT, someone should double him|pg|| nt|jbgood: difficult to find a losing line here|pg|| nt|dburn: In 3NT by East? I can see one or two possible ways in which even Chemla might go down.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|mrdct: 2@C probablt checkback|pg|| mb|p|nt|adolfod: meanwhile in the other room austria played 2 spades down one against 3 NT vulnerable in the board 9|pg|| nt|nils123: seems like easy making, but there is always a line for down|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s8|nt|nils123: if 3@s show shortness would u lead the T?|pg|| nt|nils123: what would u gain on that.....|pg|| nt|jbgood: a good concience|pg|| nt|curtis: only advantage might be informational for partner|pg|| nt|nils123: but dont u belive u can make a trick of 2 in spade, T might do some work later|pg|| nt|curtis: I think the players are a little punch drunk after all the head shots|pg|| nt|nils123: would agree if the held something like T97x|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ritong: brb|pg|| nt|mrdct: @C now will be dangerous|pg|| nt|mrdct: in fact a @C now beats the contract|pg|| nt|vugraph195: finally someone started to think :=)|pg|| nt|adolfod: may he switch to a low club? |pg|| nt|vugraph195: right hand is over the clubs|pg|| nt|mrdct: zmud probably knows north hasn't got 5 @S so @C may be his best hope|pg|| pc|d3|nt|adolfod: well done|pg|| nt|mrdct: nice defence (so far)|pg|| nt|mrdct: as the ESPN ad says "these guys are good"|pg|| nt|adolfod: no doubt|pg|| nt|ritong: these guys are terrific, even|pg|| nt|nils123: multon-quantain also dbl 4s on last board, but that was after they first bid 4@h getting a save|pg|| nt|nils123: he is in a had position now...|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|nt|nils123: making now|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|jbgood: all the time|pg|| pc|cA|nt|nils123: he did nice to let @d T run|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ritong: prepares to *shrug*..|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c7|nt|mrdct: accurate signals by NS really paying off|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s7|mc|9|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAKJ5HQT73DT94CQ2,ST942H984DJ753CA9,S8HA52DAQ62CKJ754,SQ763HKJ6DK8CT863|sv|n|nt|bbramley: even a 5-2 spade fit is often superior to 2NT|pg|| nt|panja: y|pg|| nt|udo: the actual dummy made no trick in NT, and would have made some in @S|pg|| nt|panja: in the very least, the fifth Spade gives an entry to Dummy for some useful finesse work|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|udo: as usual italy seems to get all critical and expensive decisions right, will be a hard fight for the netherlands|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|udo: 2@C inverted|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|bbramley: looks like 3NT should be set by a timely club play from south|pg|| nt|beto: playing NT by west u hv 2 clubs stoppers|pg|| nt|bbramley: but north will lead a spade. south can shift to clubs when he wins @DA|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c2|nt|panja: not a bad spot with good side suit controls|pg|| nt|bbramley: yes, definite chances here|pg|| pc|c9|nt|panja: E wasn't sure of Club checks, so 2@S, but West with two black Aces, preferred to support H than bid 2Nt|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|nt|jkotor: Q @s now |pg|| nt|beto: how should declarer play after @SQ?|pg|| nt|bbramley: now @S shift beats it, i believe|pg|| nt|jkotor: i m almost sure|pg|| pc|c6|nt|panja: @SK, @DK would be best I think|pg|| nt|udo: yes|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|migry: this certainly is an exciting match:)|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d9|nt|panja: he is hoping for frozend Spades|pg|| nt|bbramley: yes, save both entries|pg|| nt|panja: if South had @S9, defence wouldnt have been able to touch Spades anymore|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| nt|udo: yes, with many high-level decisions|pg|| pc|s7|nt|bbramley: but then a club would leave him with a spade loser anyway|pg|| nt|bbramley: needed north to hold @DA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|fluffy: including this 3NT|pg|| nt|dinos1: has to guess @s distribution|pg|| nt|udo: what is he thinking about ? he needs a @C and @S to be 1-1 |pg|| nt|dinos1: cnat check @d for 3-3|pg|| nt|fluffy: what line he has playing @d6?|pg|| nt|udo: yes, you are right|pg|| pc|dA|nt|panja: no|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| nt|udo: well done|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|d6|pg|| nt|udo: good defence and italy comes closer to the 25|pg|| nt|udo: he could also try clubs or diamonds for 3-3|pg|| nt|udo: for -1|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SKT5HJ7DKT7532CQ5,S82HT9832DJ6CT764,SJ93HA64DQ9CAKJ82,SAQ764HKQ5DA84C93|sv|e|nt|ritong: several specs underline that @ds cud be established safely|pg|| nt|ritong: leaving lead in north, that is|pg|| nt|nils123: another hand for papa to be boss|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|mrdct: 4@H looks ok on this layout|pg|| nt|curtis: 1N-3N|pg|| nt|nils123: spade lead make life easy, @h K make him a bit more conserned|pg|| nt|jbgood: rombaut has not passed yet:)|pg|| nt|nils123: maybe our french friend want to tell us something in this hand|pg|| nt|nils123: i guess we would have on his hand jon|pg|| nt|curtis: he can safety the diamonds if Rombaut continues spades when in with the DA. A Heart shift is necessary to force a guess|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|jbgood: not sure - prd has passed - you are vul - not clearcut even for junior to bid:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|nils123: an easy question : to bid or to bid|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: and zmud has bought himself quite nice dummy|pg|| nt|vugraph195: zmud says 'at least undble'|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|nt|curtis: 5332, vulnerable. eek|pg|| nt|nils123: maybe lead @s ace, pd cant hold much here|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|mrdct: the 2nd entry to dummy comes in handy|pg|| nt|mrdct: but may not be enough|pg|| nt|mrdct: he needs 3 entries or some kind defence|pg|| nt|adolfod: he needs to play spades and clubs twice from dummy|pg|| nt|ritong: can be tempted to attack @cs from hand|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c5|nt|mrdct: looks like he needs an inappropriate cover of the @CJ or opps playing @C for him - neither of which seem likely|pg|| pc|c6|nt|nils123: would do better to play low d ......|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d8|nt|adolfod: he needs KQ of clubs on side|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|ritong: yes, on the surface|pg|| pc|d9|nt|nils123: rombaut could have had stiff @d ace|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SKT5HJ7DKT7532CQ5,S82HT9832DJ6CT764,SJ93HA64DQ9CAKJ82,SAQ764HKQ5DA84C93|sv|e|nt|udo: 42 difference = 24:6|pg|| nt|jkotor: i think its hard to find distribution of NS when those 4@h could be made|pg|| nt|panja: http://www.bridgebase.pl/online/online.php for results, photos and other info|pg|| nt|jkotor: even when @s would be frozen, playing @c destroys dummy entries to @d|pg|| nt|dinos1: if East had 5-2-2-4 then Versace cd lead @h|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|panja: 4@H makes|pg|| nt|panja: ok, not enough entries to Dummy|pg|| nt|udo: you have not much entries to play @C twice and spades from dummy|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| nt|udo: last 4 boards 30: 0 for italy, and the run continues apparently|pg|| nt|bbramley: now a chance!|pg|| nt|beto: small club from the hand, will matheson play the @CQ?|pg|| nt|bbramley: cold now. @H to dummy low @C to 9, later @CJ10 leaves you in dummy for another @S|pg|| nt|udo: yes, bart is right|pg|| nt|beto: y :)|pg|| nt|bbramley: but of course he's only in 3. different problems here.|pg|| nt|udo: one @D -trick is enough now |pg|| nt|migry: in the ladies match both wests led the K@d against 6@h = 980 no swing|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|fluffy: you mean board 15? wow|pg|| nt|udo: what does that mean ?|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|udo: :))|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|nt|migry: i mean board 11|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s9|pg|| nt|udo: and we talked about 10 tricks, nine are here for sure with a spade to the ace later|pg|| nt|udo: hes 2 more entries so will end with 140|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|migry: in 15 at one table the contract was 4@s|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h5|pc|d3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c8|nt|migry: i'm a woman - i can't draw conclusions|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|nt|fluffy: :)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SJ94HK4DAK73C9754,S852H76DT9542CAQ2,SKQ3HQT52DQJCKJT8,SAT76HAJ983D86C63|sv|o|nt|nils123: in fact wasnt that a better line, low d and then back to clubs play for spade trick? if rom goes up on @d a u get 2 diamonds for making|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|mrdct: west will probaly go straight to 4@S|pg|| nt|nils123: seems like 3n making, but not too easy to play|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ritong: now comes the tough stuff|pg|| mb|2N|nt|mrdct: i hate 5-level decsions|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: this wont take long|pg|| nt|adolfod: easy make|pg|| nt|mrdct: just the 3 bullets to lose|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|nils123: heart lead gives us an interesting play|pg|| nt|nils123: need to entry dummy on @s J, and play @c 9|pg|| nt|nils123: u have a better line jon?|pg|| nt|jbgood: seems as if anything goes here - 2 spades - 4 diamonds and 3 more / 2 clubs or 2 hearts|pg|| nt|vugraph196: break |pg|| nt|nils123: yes, but after heart lead mustnt let opps establish their 5th...|pg|| mb|p|nt|curtis: could play K, then C at trick 2|pg|| nt|nils123: you have a bit of a entry problem for the ak @d|pg|| nt|nils123: and club finnesse|pg|| nt|nils123: then u go down, he rise with ca play hearts....|pg|| nt|jbgood: must play low @h i think|pg|| nt|curtis: still ok|pg|| nt|curtis: guess not|pg|| mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|nt|jbgood: down now - unable to get the ninth trick before opps have 5|pg|| pc|c8|nt|curtis: was it ever makeable, though?|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - I think !10 and sp kinge is enough|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s6|pc|c5|nt|ritong: have to admit that decision surprises me...so unlikely to make a contract with this hand?|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|nt|nils123: would make on my line|pg|| nt|jbgood: not to unreasonable to play east for the two black aces|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|sT|pc|c7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SJ94HK4DAK73C9754,S852H76DT9542CAQ2,SKQ3HQT52DQJCKJT8,SAT76HAJ983D86C63|sv|o|mb|1N|nt|udo: 5 @D is a good save against 4 @S |pg|| nt|spil: now just 1 imp short of 25-5|pg|| nt|udo: third 3 SA for NS |pg|| mb|2C!|mb|3N|nt|panja: I wonder how Fantoni-Nunes find 2/3 rd suit fit after opening 2 level routinely|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bbramley: good save by scotland in the open room|pg|| mb|p|pc|h9|nt|fluffy: in 2@s they had something better than 3NT I think|pg|| nt|migry: boringgggggggg|pg|| nt|dinos1: upgraded to 15?|pg|| nt|udo: some entry problems, but he should make it anyway|pg|| nt|migry: all those 10's|pg|| pc|h4|nt|bbramley: 2@S was a relay, 3@D would have been a 1 rd force|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|bbramley: this will be 8 imps for scotland|pg|| nt|fluffy: bocchi-duboin stayed in 2@d board 16|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|dinos1: @d then high @s?|pg|| nt|udo: or small @S|pg|| nt|udo: he needs 1 @C trick|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d7|nt|migry: he may try small @s but lauria is never asleep|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|migry: oops:)) |pg|| nt|migry: sry didn't notice he's wearing his pyjama|pg|| pc|dK|nt|udo: and they need it:)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|fluffy: lol|pg|| nt|dinos1: sqz himself|pg|| pc|h2|nt|udo: but even when he goes in , 9 tricks are there|pg|| nt|fluffy: raising with @sA is a really hard play, it can be a disaster on many lay outs|pg|| nt|udo: now i see only 8?|pg|| nt|migry: looks like only 8 tricks|pg|| nt|udo: and when he would have taken the @S ace its 9 , or am i wrong ?|pg|| nt|migry: not sure |pg|| nt|dinos1: with perfect def no way|pg|| nt|udo: now @S-ace is entry to the @H ? when versace goes in with @C-ace to play @h-7|pg|| nt|migry: now my husband is patiently explaining to me that if Lauria does something it MUST be the right thing and maybe i sd try my skills in the kitchen|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|dinos1: he cant take @d A coz versache will sqz him with 5th @d|pg|| nt|landen: funny, all 6 viewgraph tables played slam on board 11 off 2 keycards|pg|| nt|udo: he can discard @C, needs only 1 club|pg|| nt|dinos1: 2 discards|pg|| pc|dA|nt|jkotor: should Nunes bid 4nt for minors?|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c8|nt|udo: 2@C s|pg|| nt|dinos1: duck @c then|pg|| nt|udo: yes, good counter|pg|| nt|dinos1: and 5 tricks for def|pg|| nt|udo: what should Lauria throw now ?|pg|| nt|sommer: must be @H|pg|| nt|dinos1: @c|pg|| nt|udo: than i play club and when ducked @H|pg|| nt|dinos1: dcl is in triple sqz|pg|| nt|dinos1: @cA and 5th @d - trpl sqz|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| nt|udo: to beat it double dummy he must throw @H|pg|| pc|s2|nt|dinos1: 5th @d! now make|pg|| pc|sK|nt|fluffy: mmmm|pg|| pc|sA|nt|migry: what happened to the 5th diamond?|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h5|nt|udo: frozen:)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|fluffy: I think @cA wasn´t the winning defence|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|udo: duck much better|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|c9|pc|dT|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SQT82HT94DQJT75C6,S964HJ62D86CQJT73,SAK7HAQ875D43C852,SJ53HK3DAK92CAK94|sv|n|mb|1C|nt|curtis: spade was led in the open room - easy after that|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: adam's hand, i mean|pg|| nt|nils123: guess ns end up in 2h|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|ritong: next, anyway|pg|| mb|1N|nt|adolfod: 3 nt n-2|pg|| mb|2H|nt|adolfod: n-s|pg|| mb|p|nt|adolfod: not so easy to bid for north|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: and very hard now :)|pg|| nt|adolfod: lol, |pg|| pc|cA|nt|adolfod: five clubs without a heart lead|pg|| nt|mrdct: how cold is 5@D?|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ritong: tropical|pg|| nt|adolfod: three aces|pg|| nt|mrdct: details ...|pg|| nt|ritong: yeah:)|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|nt|mrdct: @H lead anyone?|pg|| pc|d6|nt|ritong: interpreting lightner, u mean?|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c4|nt|adolfod: five clubs are cold, he can discard the spades losers in dummy hearts|pg|| nt|nils123: respect for the vul|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| mc|9|nt|ritong: adam is two boards away from his cigarette|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SQT82HT94DQJT75C6,S964HJ62D86CQJT73,SAK7HAQ875D43C852,SJ53HK3DAK92CAK94|sv|n|nt|bbramley: 4NT would be rich, but scotland bid it in open room, after 1@H-P-1NT-4S-P-P-4NT|pg|| nt|panja: with S!A, that is a difficult choice, I wouldnt|pg|| nt|dinos1: y - duck beats at once|pg|| nt|migry: did it all happen or were we dreaming?|pg|| nt|sommer: when @H is thrown, yes|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|udo: this time . the save was a phantom against 5 @C |pg|| nt|panja: 4@H?|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|jkotor: maybe not vul vs vul |pg|| nt|dburn: It was a phantom against 4@h also|pg|| nt|jkotor: if u find correct defense A@h and ruff|pg|| nt|dburn: and, indeed, against 4NT - but only just|pg|| nt|udo: and the board before italy in open room missed the 3 NT , so we have a close match now|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: Still, after Duboin opened 1@d with the West cards, it was not ridiculous for Bocchi to hope that his side might make a game in diamonds|pg|| nt|udo: @S-lead will do it ? against 5 @C|pg|| mb|3C|nt|udo: agree david|pg|| nt|bbramley: i doubt that patrick will fancy his defense here either|pg|| nt|jkotor: declarer ducks first @s|pg|| nt|migry: 2@d = 18-20 bal|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: The defenders may have a counter to that|pg|| mb|p|nt|bbramley: no passes yet|pg|| nt|jkotor: everybody bid 1@h with S hand?|pg|| nt|bbramley: yes|pg|| nt|dburn: No one seems to have bid his own suit very often either|pg|| nt|panja: where are we headed?|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|sam arf: ora meno di 5@D non si possono giocare|pg|| nt|jkotor: me for example not|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|nt|udo: me not , with passed p yes ,|pg|| nt|panja: South's Pass, would it be forcing?|pg|| nt|udo: south should have doubled 5 @D in my opinion|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|jkotor: this overcall may cause bad @h lead|pg|| pc|dA|nt|dinos1: on b.16 Bocchi opened 1@c instead of 1n, so played 2@d only|pg|| pc|d5|nt|bbramley: tough for north not to bid here. his partner might have @HA instead of @DA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|nt|udo: but better to double 6 @D :)))|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|cT|nt|jkotor: pass is 100% F?|pg|| nt|sommer: Bocchi wins 3 NT easily :)|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|c3|nt|udo: after 4 @S sure, therefore X would have been right|pg|| nt|jkotor: agree|pg|| nt|udo: @S , ducked , now |pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|udo: good to have the possibility to play 3 !°C after strong balanced opener !|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s2|nt|udo: 3@C|pg|| nt|sommer: @C9 in 3rd trick ..same start|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|nt|udo: spade-spade. sy|pg|| nt|panja: E would have done better to open 3@D on this hand|pg|| pc|d7|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| nt|bbramley: agree south should hve doubled, not sure pass is forcing.|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|cQ|pc|h7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1ST87HQJT98DK2C963,SQJ643HA2D7654CAQ,S95H73DAJT9CKJT82,SAK2HK654DQ83C754|sv|e|nt|mrdct: are smoking breaks allowed in this event?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: not likely|pg|| mb|1S|nt|adolfod: six spades|pg|| nt|vugraph195: unfortunately not|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|mrdct: this should be fairly easy to bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|ritong: first snag, seems|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|mrdct: east knows his side has 30 or 31 hco and he has a lovely suit - so he should push on|pg|| nt|ritong: west shud cue, i guess|pg|| nt|mrdct: i would expect so - but don't know what their methods are|pg|| nt|jbgood: really impossible to find an intermediate @d lead|pg|| nt|nils123: dont seem like greece will get back in this match, many chances spiled thou|pg|| pc|d3|nt|ritong: every lights on green for him|pg|| nt|ritong: well..|pg|| pc|d2|nt|mrdct: east still has enough to move again i think|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| nt|nils123: 2 slams and a game that could been made|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|nt|mrdct: not the most elegant auction - but they got there|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|adolfod: saving a trick|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|jbgood: Palau will rough a @d high for his 10th trick|pg|| pc|hT|pc|sQ|nt|mrdct: just needs trumps to behave now|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s3|nt|nils123: not the B card in last trick this time|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|mrdct: 6NT is the superior contract as if one black suit breaks poorly you can fall back on the other|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|nt|nils123: there it goes|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1ST87HQJT98DK2C963,SQJ643HA2D7654CAQ,S95H73DAJT9CKJT82,SAK2HK654DQ83C754|sv|e|nt|bbramley: on wild hands shouldn't be forced to double, espec vul against not|pg|| nt|panja: y|pg|| nt|jkotor: in my sys always when we were in game vul vs not vul pass is F|pg|| nt|bbramley: 6NT best here, makes if either black suit runs|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|fluffy: 2@d multi, right?|pg|| nt|udo: 2 @D strong balanced or 5 @h with 3-10 HCP|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|panja: 6Nt is the best contract, not depending any particular black suit break|pg|| mb|2N|nt|udo: italy needs 3 more imps for 25 VP|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|panja: but usually the stronger partner wins......so let us see who is strong here|pg|| nt|udo: they play 2 @H weaktwo, and 2 @D " very-weak-two " :))))|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|beto: does anyone still use 1@C - 2@S as strong, good suit?|pg|| nt|migry: we r playing the board before last of this very exciting and hard fought match:)|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|udo: no|pg|| nt|bbramley: E/W play strong jump shifts. maybe east thinks he's TOO strong|pg|| nt|fluffy: its a lovelly system when it comes :), specially at this vulnerability|pg|| nt|udo: yes, very interesting battle |pg|| nt|migry: thanks to our great operator in Istanbul for a wonderful job|pg|| nt|udo: where is the 9th trick here ?|pg|| nt|dinos1: yes, strong and exciting battle|pg|| pc|hA|nt|bbramley: yes, i still play strong jumps at the 2 level|pg|| nt|beto: me too|pg|| nt|spil: and so does this pair|pg|| nt|udo: i play it 4 @S 6 other major , 6-9|pg|| nt|beto: as i play it can be either an opening hand with solid 7 card suit, or 16+ with good 6 card suit|pg|| nt|jkotor: my jumps are conv|pg|| pc|h7|nt|udo: 6 other minor, sy|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|spil: no sorry - they play it as a fit bid|pg|| nt|bbramley: CC says strong|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|spil: :) - I was right the first time|pg|| pc|sA|nt|udo: yees, cc says strong jumps over 1 @C/ @D|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|nt|bbramley: good case to put it in NT after finding missing ace|pg|| nt|migry: and thanks to my excellent co commentators: Sergey Kustarov, Udo Kasimir and Gonzalo Goded :)) |pg|| pc|s8|nt|jkotor: true|pg|| pc|s4|nt|udo: 12 tricks must be there, only danger is a ruff|pg|| nt|panja: on this hand, with KQ of Clubs, I think 1@S better than jumping|pg|| nt|panja: even if you have the jump available|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|ryskiel_: Italian need now 4 imps to 25-5|pg|| nt|bbramley: have to weigh this layout against west holding, say, Jx-x-KQxx-AJxxxx|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|fluffy: if you play a @d to the @dQ and they get sleepy you may get a endplay in the end for exaple :)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c2|pc|h4|pc|c6|pg|| nt|dinos1: dont see the winning line|pg|| pc|s6|pc|cJ|nt|vugraph197: he claimed 6|pg|| nt|fluffy: Thank you too Migry|pg|| nt|fluffy: and you husband for helping to broadcast :)|pg|| nt|migry: :)))|pg|| pc|c4|nt|migry: Hope to see you all tomorrow morning at 9am Paris for more great bridge - Israel is playing:)|pg|| nt|udo: tx to you migry , always a pleasure :)|pg|| nt|dinos1: only with sleepy def :))|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|nt|dinos1: @c now|pg|| nt|udo: south must play a @C when in with @D king , not a @H|pg|| nt|fluffy: uh ohhh|pg|| pc|c8|nt|dinos1: lol|pg|| nt|udo: now make|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|dinos1: endplay|pg|| nt|udo: gou out with @D , and wait|pg|| nt|sommer: he has the count for sure ..so no finesse|pg|| nt|dinos1: @c better - it's known who has K|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|dinos1: :)))|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SJ7632HKT72DA5CAQ,SAKQ5H54DK8CT9854,ST98H63DQT432C632,S4HAQJ98DJ976CKJ7|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|nils123: no papa in the last board|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|curtis: tough hands for Greece. No serious mistakes but 20 away on the last 2 hands|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|mrdct: for a moment there i thought NS were not going to get into the auction|pg|| nt|mrdct: interesting 2@H bid|pg|| nt|ritong: one can wonder why balicki did not overcall first round|pg|| nt|mrdct: north may suspect it to be a psyche|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|nils123: filio might have dbl, needing imps .......|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ritong: olé|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: they find their 8-card @S fit even after the opps bid it naturally|pg|| nt|ritong: who said earlier " these guys always find their 8 cards fit"?:)|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|curtis: typical french bridge... Sit in your chair and take what the opponents give you|pg|| nt|nils123: would be interesting wiht a dbl and heart lead, maybe even jon would have gone down|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: ah, yes:)|pg|| nt|ritong: you, dave:)|pg|| mb|p|pc|d2|nt|mrdct: i'm quite good at finding my 6-card fit in these sorts of auctions|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|nt|ritong: is a full time job :)|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|nils123: well, have played a few times vs france myself, im not sure about that|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|ritong: merci a tous :-) bravo, ercan, tough table for operating|pg|| nt|mrdct: this is the last hand for the match. thx everyone for watching, thx to my fellow commentators and a big thx to our operator who did a great job keepoing up with these fast players|pg|| nt|adolfod: bye, thks all|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|h7|pg|| nt|mrdct: and we can all grab a beer now and watch the last few hands again in the closed room|pg|| nt|ritong: good plan|pg|| nt|ritong: bye bye :)|pg|| pc|c8|pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s5|mc|9|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SJ7632HKT72DA5CAQ,SAKQ5H54DK8CT9854,ST98H63DQT432C632,S4HAQJ98DJ976CKJ7|sv|b|nt|bbramley: another good result for italy here|pg|| nt|sommer: no finesse :)|pg|| nt|udo: hm.|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|udo: NS make 3 @S ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jkotor: i think yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|nt|jkotor: but will have to play carefully|pg|| nt|udo: can discard @C on the @D s|pg|| nt|panja: even 10 tricks possible if they allows Clubs to be discarded on Diamonds|pg|| mb|p|nt|jkotor: not with @c lead|pg|| nt|panja: best lead would be @SA and back|pg|| mb|1N|nt|bbramley: in other room 3@D made after lead of @HQ|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|udo: when he makes the 3 @S , italy has 25 : 5|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|migry: Sorry, my apologizes to Povl Sommer who was commentating with us:) thx:) great job:)|pg|| nt|dinos1: good L/D bid 1@s :)|pg|| pc|sT|nt|udo: 24:6 otherwise|pg|| nt|beto: easy now|pg|| nt|udo: yes the fall of @S 10 helps and some @H s go away on the @D s|pg|| pc|s4|nt|sommer: oh, I just "fall in" :)) ...so the thanks are for you great guys |pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| nt|sommer: ..and lady:))|pg|| nt|migry: :)|pg|| nt|udo: much work for 9 tricks|pg|| nt|dinos1: no - lady... and guys :)|pg|| nt|migry: :)))|pg|| nt|udo: south has many entries to develop his @S s|pg|| nt|migry: he keeps the best for last:)))|pg|| nt|fluffy: http://www.bridgebase.pl/online/online.php for info about the tourney, tomorrow Spain is scheduled on BBO´s vugraph, on first match, 9 in the morning spanish time|pg|| nt|dinos1: needs only 1 @s trick|pg|| nt|udo: i bet for -1 , any cokes ?|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|bbramley: bye everyone, it's been a pleasure|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|udo: or more -2|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jkotor: bye, thanks all|pg|| nt|beto: Last hand, thx all for coming|pg|| nt|udo: yes, ty all, enjoyed to comment with you, and cu later :)|pg|| pc|sK|nt|migry: not from me:)|pg|| pc|s8|nt|spil: thanks all|pg|| nt|panja: thx all|pg|| nt|udo: hm , :)|pg|| nt|sommer: never bet on a certain :)|pg|| nt|udo: hoped to reach the 1:1|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|sommer: hehe|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|dinos1: good play of @s8 - now S can lead @sJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|d7|pg|| nt|dinos1: -2|pg|| nt|udo: :)|pg|| nt|fluffy: 4 off then?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|nt|ryskiel_: You never escape before Your fate - is it Scotish proverb too ?|pg|| nt|udo: and thx to the operator, great job !|pg|| nt|vugraph197: ty all , big thanks to our great commentators |pg|| nt|spil: not that I know - but seems appropriate|pg|| nt|vugraph197: c u in 1 hour |pg|| nt|vugraph197: bye bye|pg|| nt|beto: thx, great job opertor! c u!|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c8|pc|d3|nt|udo: small @d ?|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|dinos1: thx for being with us|pg|| nt|sommer: bye and tnx lady and gentlemen :)|pg|| nt|fluffy: thx guys|pg|| nt|migry: thx all bye:) it was a pleasure:)|pg|| nt|dinos1: bye:)|pg|| nt|udo: ty all, hope to cu tomorrow, start at 9.00 Paris :))|pg|| nt|fluffy: and thx all spectators who stayed with us :)|pg|| nt|fluffy: very good job Alex with the vu graph operating, its really helpfull to get some alerts explained|pg|| nt|fluffy: good bye|pg|| mc|6|pg||