vg|Taiwan University Championship Final,Seg 3,I,1,16,NTU,87,NCTU,62| rs|3NW=,3CN=,6HN=,7HS-1,3NS-2,2DN-1,4SS-1,4SS-1,2SS=,3NN=,2SS+2,3NE-4,2SNx+1,4DW-1,5CE-2,4HW-1,2DS+2,2HN+1,1NW-1,1NW=,3NW-5,3CW-1,4SW=,4SW-1,3NE+1,3NE=,2DW-1,3DW-2,6DW=,5CW=,3HE=,3HE+2| pn|eieio,Andy Liu,jerryb,pon pon,right,jhikru,mirorman,lorderic|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SK85H76DT32CK9432,SJ92HKT32DK6CQJ86,SQT64HAQ98DJ8CAT7,SA73HJ54DAQ9754C5|sv|o|nt|tsanders: Hi all, welcome to the 2nd semifinal of the Reisinger|pg|| mb|1N|an| |mb|d|an| |mb|2C|an| |nt|ahh: hi all|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: hi all|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|poohbear: 1c is strong and 1 d is weak|pg|| nt|ahh: hi Barry|pg|| nt|poohbear: both are artificial|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|poohbear: hi jim|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|poohbear: 1h shows either hearts or a balanced hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 1sp asks|pg|| mb|p|pc|cT|pc|c5|nt|poohbear: 1nt shows 20-21( ithink:) |pg|| nt|poohbear: and there they rest|pg|| pc|cK|nt|poohbear: this hand wil play well|pg|| nt|tsanders: Welcome to expert commentators Barry Goren, USA and Jim Hay, Scotland|pg|| nt|ahh: do we know any standings ?|pg|| nt|tsanders: no, hope operator does|pg|| nt|poohbear: I checked my pockets. NOPE|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|c9|nt|poohbear: best to shift to hearts now|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s6|nt|tsanders: Both of these pairs are past world champions|pg|| pc|s7|nt|poohbear: declarer up to 8 top tricks . 9th will come in spades after he ducks one heart|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|poohbear: assuming he risks it|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|mc|9|nt|poohbear: If Soloway has the @h ace then its a disaster|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SK85H76DT32CK9432,SJ92HKT32DK6CQJ86,SQT64HAQ98DJ8CAT7,SA73HJ54DAQ9754C5|sv|o|mb|1C|nt|vugraph7: sorry, wrong boards :)|pg|| mb|1D|mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|kareno: This is a revival of an old partnership, Mark Feldman and Bart Bramley. Bart has been playing with Sidney Lazard of late.|pg|| nt|roghog: 4@s on a finesse here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|kareno: Feldman's nickname is Flash, mainly because he is noted for slow play. When we've asked him what he's thinking about, his reply has always been, "I'm thinking about every board I ...|pg|| nt|kareno: ever played."|pg|| nt|poohbear: could be a candidate for the worlds slowest pair. Though Bart would have to really turn it off to pass Barnet Shenkin one of Marks other partners:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: EW are on the Lazard team with Sidney Lazard, William Pollack and Mark Cohen as their teammates|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d4|nt|macsek: max egy órát tudok|pg|| nt|poohbear: 9 easy tricks here|pg|| pc|dT|nt|vugraph7: they finished yesterday in 25th place|pg|| nt|vugraph7: sorry, 25/26|pg|| nt|poohbear: last qualifying spot|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| nt|by: this defense is criminal|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|nt|vugraph7: eric's thinking|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d5|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| nt|pjack: serverus come here at 12:30|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SHA9765DAKQ4CAQJ9,SJ6432HQJ4DJ3C643,SAK87HKT2D9862CK5,SQT95H83DT75CT872|sv|n|nt|poohbear: so he might take a sure 120|pg|| nt|ahh: north south action here |pg|| nt|tsanders: good slam, even grand|pg|| nt|poohbear: BAM is often a question of what you think will happen at the other table|pg|| mb|p|nt|tsanders: Many experts consider board-a-match the most exacting form of the game. Equal weight is accorded each deal and every trick is important when scoring is board-by-board. Scoring is 1 ...|pg|| nt|tsanders: point for winning the board, 1/2 point for a tie, and 0 for losing it.|pg|| mb|1C|an| |mb|p|nt|tsanders: BAM= board-a-match|pg|| mb|1H|an| |mb|p|mb|1S|an| |mb|p|nt|ahh: every trick can and often does count you cant let your concentration waver for a second|pg|| nt|poohbear: Declarer cant help but make 13 tricks as both finesse win|pg|| nt|tsanders: this used to be the most prevelent form of teams beforre Swiss was invented|pg|| nt|ahh: best to play in nt here will they reach 7|pg|| mb|1N|an| |mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|tsanders: N knew, because of system, that S was limited, hence didn't try for a grand|pg|| nt|tsanders: limited by not opening 1@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|ahh: nice lead |pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SHA9765DAKQ4CAQJ9,SJ6432HQJ4DJ3C643,SAK87HKT2D9862CK5,SQT95H83DT75CT872|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|roghog: another finessey game that makes|pg|| mb|3C|nt|roghog: 4@h by NS, I mean|pg|| nt|kareno: 4@h is a possible make with diamond guess, etc., but doubt they'll get there.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|roghog: yes, especially at this scoring|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|kareno: I would always double 1@s for takeout with the north hand.. who else would?|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: I would|pg|| mb|4N|nt|roghog: I definitely would, Karen|pg|| nt|poohbear: only cause I have 4h|pg|| nt|reisig: not the 3 aces?|pg|| nt|poohbear: with 4-4 in the minors I would not|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Hampson really soft pedalled his hand|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|mb|7H|mb|p|nt|kareno: There's actually no guess in diamonds with east having passed the opening bid. However, with KQx of diamonds it's possible to duck and convince declarer to play the nine (or to ...|pg|| nt|kareno: rise with KTx and hope he misguesses).|pg|| nt|ritong 1: we could have an interesting @d handling here|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: It is a suit with many possible plays by declarer and defense.|pg|| mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|kareno: But with east passing over 1@s I think it plays automatically even if Bramley rises with the queen on the first play.|pg|| nt|ritong 1: for the art:)|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, our kibitzers should learn to play the Queen in such a situation to make it harder for declarer.|pg|| nt|ritong 1: true.|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|nt|reisig: except when partner has singleton King!|pg|| nt|kareno: And in the expert game, play low with KQx and make declarer guess to play the jack :-)|pg|| nt|kareno: Now, Richie, don't pour water on my theories :-)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 2 more rounds after this one|pg|| nt|roghog: 2 overtricks now|pg|| nt|ritong 1: richie does not pour water|pg|| nt|reisig: That wasn't water dear:))|pg|| nt|ritong 1: he pours icecubes|pg|| nt|kareno: OWIE!!|pg|| nt|kareno: Anyway, that suit combination is a much more interesting one than most.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQJT72HJ854DJTCQJ,SA43HAQT32D754C94,S8H97DA9863CAKT86,SK965HK6DKQ2C7532|sv|e|nt|poohbear: you can read about it in the bulletins which are available on the ACBL website. www.acbl.org|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: think it was WEd bulletin|pg|| nt|ahh: this format is not the most viewer friendly no comparisons and often long waits between rounds but the bridge is usually fascinating|pg|| mb|1D|an| |mb|p|nt|poohbear: but all of them make interesting reading|pg|| nt|tsanders: 1. Brachman 19, Cayne 17.83, Nickell 17.7, Welland 17.16, Meltzer 16.83, Lev 16.83, Sanborn 16.67, O'Rouurke 16.17, Mossop 15, Bertheau 14.67 |pg|| nt|poohbear: 1c strong and 2 d is nat and GF|pg|| nt|vugraph9: will have the updated halftime after this round|pg|| mb|1S|an| |mb|p|mb|2C|an| |mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 2h is a relay . after that I am lost:)|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahh: north south seem to have the hands so far|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahh: 6@D is not a bad contract single dummy|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: straight finesse|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|nt|ahh: can ruff @H both menaces in majors against west|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|poohbear: short 1 trick jim|pg|| nt|tsanders: this could be made from the S, @s lead will set it from N|pg|| nt|ahh: need to guess whether finesse or squeeze|pg|| nt|poohbear: only 10 tricks|pg|| nt|poohbear: no squeeze|pg|| nt|poohbear: no play except to try for spade finesse|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Brachman in the lead with 19.0 next is Cayne at 17.83|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Then Nickell at 17.17|pg|| nt|vugraph9: and wellend at 17.16|pg|| nt|poohbear: or sneeking a club thru but I doubt that will happen:)|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Meltzer then Lev|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ahh: quickly down|pg|| nt|poohbear: so a good result for fearless leader:)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|mc|7|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQJT72HJ854DJTCQJ,SA43HAQT32D754C94,S8H97DA9863CAKT86,SK965HK6DKQ2C7532|sv|e|nt|by: now ntu only 18 ahead|pg|| nt|by: the defense could save 3 imps by beating 3@c|pg|| nt|by: declarer can make double dummy, but I am not sure that he will make|pg|| nt|by: noeye, is N-S playing any gadgets like 2@h = majors?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|pjack: next round will begin immediately after this board|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|noeye: no|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 2 spades is the max on this board unless South takes a strange view in the spade suit|pg|| nt|roghog: difficult to stay so low|pg|| nt|ritong: delicate carding after the @d lead, though|pg|| nt|poohbear: notice that North only raised to 3 spades with his 12 count|pg|| nt|poohbear: 2 reasons . 1 they open very light and 2 aceless|pg|| mb|2D|nt|kareno: They open quite light in their style.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: Steve Weinstein has come over to kibitz|pg|| nt|ritong: say @d three times...|pg|| nt|noeye: They may narrow the gap of IMP|pg|| pc|s6|nt|poohbear: If horths minors were reversed this decision would be correct|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Hampson, as he's putting down dummy: I did not want the slow pass|pg|| nt|by: to beat this, the defenders need a good start like the @hK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|kareno: With mirrors three can be made.|pg|| nt|kareno: Backward finesse in spades.|pg|| nt|reisig: after they take 4 tricks?|pg|| nt|poohbear: she said 3 rich:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: 4 can be made if no club shift here|pg|| nt|reisig: You have to be very tall to make it|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes. With mirrors :) Leading the @s Jack through west.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Gerstman was getting more info about the light openings... what hand types/strengths will pass 1n, etc etc.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: now he's just thinking.|pg|| nt|ritong: crossroads.|pg|| nt|ritong: at least he did not try to cash @ds by inertia|pg|| pc|s4|nt|roghog: declarer is hoping for a trump switch, but it isnt to be|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|kareno: Now the club.|pg|| nt|by: they still have a chance|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|poohbear: woops|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| nt|kareno: Okay at least eventually the club.|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|pjack: H6 is the killing defense|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|by: when in with the @dK, l east leads another @c, when in with the @dQ|pg|| nt|by: ¶B­J|pg|| nt|by: !!!|pg|| nt|by: ok, the defenders do negotiate their ruff|pg|| nt|by: we reconvene right away|pg|| nt|by: for the last set|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SJT832H764DQCAQ96,SA94HQT952DJ984C8,SQ765HA3DAK72C732,SKHKJ8DT653CKJT54|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|an| |nt|poohbear: who need a lot more like that one to overcome their 25th place|pg|| nt|poohbear: 15-17 nt?|pg|| nt|ahh: slightly off centre 1nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|poohbear: I need 10 of @D to upgrade here|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|an| |mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: club lead holds it to 2|pg|| mb|p|pc|c8|nt|ahh: has 8 tricks|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s9|nt|poohbear: 130 available in @d|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|c5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h8|nt|ahh: how many teams qualify for final?|pg|| nt|tsanders: 14|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 14|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahh: so a bit of work for our leader to make up the ground|pg|| nt|poohbear: spades has a chance for 140|pg|| nt|tsanders: carryover tomorrow will be factored|pg|| nt|ahh: interesting if he ducks he will be sorry|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SJT832H764DQCAQ96,SA94HQT952DJ984C8,SQ765HA3DAK72C732,SKHKJ8DT653CKJT54|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|poohbear: Hampson thinking his pard has red suits perhaps?|pg|| mb|4S|nt|ritong: can be|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: 4nt = any twosuiter|pg|| nt|ritong: no?|pg|| nt|kareno: 4NT shows some two-suited hand. |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|pc|c2|nt|poohbear: Greco might have taken a chance|pg|| nt|ritong: david burn did|pg|| pc|cK|nt|poohbear: and raised|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|ritong: gutsy!|pg|| nt|kareno: It's very tempting to bid six. |pg|| nt|vugraph7: Eric says 4n = any two suiter|pg|| nt|reisig: 4@s did its work|pg|| nt|juror4: byl deszcz z gradem zamiast sniegu|pg|| nt|reisig: I must admit ...I'd bid 6@c|pg|| nt|ritong: and go down after @h lead|pg|| nt|poohbear: Hampson and Greco need to do have a good last 2 boards in order to gain some momentum for tonight|pg|| nt|kareno: In France the east distribution is known as "Eau de Cologne," because of the famous brand of cologne, 4711.|pg|| nt|ritong: :-)|pg|| nt|poohbear: definitely need to do some soul searching between sessions|pg|| nt|reisig: or drinking|pg|| nt|poohbear: :))|pg|| nt|kareno: Remember this is not the day to win the event. It's a qualification day and they will be happy if they do qualify. Be sure to come back for the second session of this great ...|pg|| nt|kareno: event!!|pg|| nt|roghog: top 14 teams to qualify, I'm told|pg|| nt|kareno: How many qualified to today?|pg|| nt|poohbear: I think only 10|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 14|pg|| nt|reisig: Yes -- I heard the same...a larger number than normal|pg|| nt|poohbear: thats new|pg|| nt|kareno: We're told 14 will qualify.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|h8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d4|mc|9|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAKQT9HK543DJCQ97,S75HAT862D874CKT6,S64H97DAQT2CA8432,SJ832HQJDK9653CJ5|sv|n|nt|tsanders: only one comparison|pg|| nt|tsanders: with your teammates|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: this is a tricky little board |pg|| mb|p|nt|tsanders: Pollack and Cohen both reside in New Jersey in the shadows of the Big Apple|pg|| mb|1S|an| |nt|poohbear: best for EW to arrive in 3c. to achieve par|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: n/s can make 2@H despite being outgunned 3@C seems best for e/w|pg|| nt|tsanders: This is Mark Cohen, no relation to Larry, Mr Law|pg|| mb|1N|an| |nt|poohbear: if NS compete to 3h they risk being dbled for -200|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahh: may be left in|pg|| nt|poohbear: Vulnerability at the 3 lvl is just as critical in BAM as vulnerability at the 5 lvl in imps|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ahh: x must show good hand for action so far |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|tsanders: 2@h from west is a game try, showing a @c fit, E declined interest|pg|| pc|d7|nt|ahh: no x no trouble|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ahh: this will drift 1 off and may well win board|pg|| nt|poohbear: Sontag Weichsel Theoretically saving against making 3c contract ( assuming it does)|pg|| nt|poohbear: should be no problem|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|poohbear: declarer needs to hook spades before he draws trumps in 3c|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|ahh: this is very similar to match points if you think you can make 110 have to x to get 200 or take it 2 off|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|nt|tsanders: right Jim|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|c2|pc|s3|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAKQT9HK543DJCQ97,S75HAT862D874CKT6,S64H97DAQT2CA8432,SJ832HQJDK9653CJ5|sv|n|nt|ritong: from a reliable source|pg|| nt|poohbear: so reality is you only need avg to qualify|pg|| nt|ritong: hi susan@h|pg|| nt|kareno: When I've gotten to the Finals, it's been only 11 to qualify.|pg|| nt|poohbear: since 26 teams in the event|pg|| nt|vugraph7: hello henri|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|roghog: 5@s is the limit for NS|pg|| nt|poohbear: So reality is that team Brachman is in good shape here|pg|| nt|vugraph7: They went from 52 --> 26 ... and 14 for tomorrow (I just confirmed)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|roghog: thx Susan|pg|| nt|reisig: 4@h -- prob void|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 4@H = void splinter|pg|| nt|ritong: 3@h wud be single,richie?|pg|| mb|1N|nt|kareno: So, if the score posted is correct, our fine team that we've watched all day should qualify with just average tonight.|pg|| nt|poohbear: just found a good save|pg|| mb|p|nt|reisig: There are other ways|pg|| nt|ritong: oki|pg|| nt|vugraph7: The running tally on this screen only shows a 2 board carryover for Brachman, but they were the leaders after day 1 and actually have a full 4 board carryover|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|reisig: The 4@s bid = NO SLAM|pg|| nt|poohbear: though 5spades is cold hard to get there|pg|| nt|kareno: Are they the defenders as well?|pg|| nt|roghog: -500, a good save|pg|| nt|poohbear: YES'|pg|| nt|poohbear: won last year with Brachman on the team|pg|| nt|kareno: Very impressive.|pg|| nt|poohbear: in a very exciting finish|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|reisig: 5 level choices are tough|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|kareno: Once Greco passed over 5@h he was committed to passing once his partner doubled. The only hand that would bid on would be one with massive extra playing strength and that would be ...|pg|| nt|kareno: a slam try. Greco disciplined here.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Hampson should make a play that will tell his pard he has the @D king|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|poohbear: will the halftime scores be reported anywhere?:)|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|reisig: In Orlando|pg|| pc|c2|nt|vugraph7: sorry -- dummy played a dif card than was called and I got lost|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|dT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c8|mc|9|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SKJ9854HK53DT76C9,S6HA98764D852CAJT,ST72HJTDAKQJCK853,SAQ3HQ2D943CQ7642|sv|e|nt|ahh: 10 of difference scores same as 1100 of a difference|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|an| |nt|tsanders: west doesn't has a good bid|pg|| nt|ahh: seen that @H suit before|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: 6 card suit looks like a good bid to me:)|pg|| nt|tsanders: W took the high road and may be sorry|pg|| nt|tsanders: only good if you can get out|pg|| mb|2H|an| |mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|poohbear: interesting bid for Weichsel. he doesnt want to encourage pard and yet he has values|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|ahh: learnt lesson from last hand but may regret this x |pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|tsanders: forgot to double last hand, now making up for it - needs a @d ruff|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ahh: has to get the ruff in or curtains|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s8|nt|ahh: may get greedy try for 2 off|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dJ|nt|ahh: no well done|pg|| nt|ahh: going plus should be good for e/w|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|poohbear: where was pollack last hand?:)|pg|| nt|tsanders: http://www.acbl.org/nabc/Orlando2004/bulletins.html is the web site for Daily Bulletins from this tournament|pg|| nt|poohbear: Lauria Versace from the Jacobs team . the italians are reigning world champions having won the rosenblum cup in Istanbul|pg|| nt|tsanders: One of the top pairs in the world and current Olympiad Champions: Versace/Lauria|pg|| nt|poohbear: sorry olympiad:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: olympiad allows only one team per country. Rosenblum teams is open to basically any team|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SKJ9854HK53DT76C9,S6HA98764D852CAJT,ST72HJTDAKQJCK853,SAQ3HQ2D943CQ7642|sv|e|nt|ritong: no problem|pg|| nt|vugraph7: down 3 though|pg|| nt|ritong: the play was not very intricated|pg|| mb|1C|nt|reisig: This is a cute hand|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ritong: hampson will have a suit choice to make|pg|| nt|kareno: Makes 3NT because spades and diamonds break.|pg|| nt|roghog: 3NT here, as the @s are 4-4|pg|| nt|ritong: think level is acquired|pg|| nt|reisig: 2@c ..Landy type|pg|| nt|ritong: unless he is extremely prudent|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph7: sorry --- it's @S + @H or @S + @C|pg|| nt|ritong: different, then|pg|| nt|reisig: ahh|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I coudln't make out the last part of Greco's note, but Hampson uses nice suit symbols. =)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|poohbear: reason that EW can open 1nt with 4-4-4-1 is because they play a canape system. which means that they bid short suits before long suits. therefore 4-4-4-1 is a very hard hand to ...|pg|| nt|poohbear: describe|pg|| nt|ritong: midway|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|roghog: one down, thanks to the ruff|pg|| nt|poohbear: give Hampson an A for penmanship:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: last board for this afternoon --- the evening session starts at 7:30 pm (in about 2.5 hours)|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: will they find the ruff?|pg|| nt|ritong: merci susan:)|pg|| nt|roghog: I'm afraid I'll be asleep in 2.5 hrs...|pg|| mb|p|nt|reisig: yes|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| nt|roghog: exhausted by all this excellent bridge!!|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d6|nt|poohbear: bye all . cyu later:)|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|reisig: bye bye|pg|| nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg|| nt|kareno: Bye for now - see you later for more great bridge|pg|| nt|roghog: g'night all from this godforsaken island :-)|pg|| nt|ritong: nite roger:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the other table is sllooooowww -- still bidding board 5. |pg|| nt|vugraph7: The other table has reached 6 @s on board 5|pg|| nt|vugraph7: with 1 round to go the Brachman team leads with 17 boards (including carryover) -- Cayne in 2nd with 16.33|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h3|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hA|mc|5|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SKJ9762H42D2CAJ82,SHKQ7DQT653CKQT76,SQ54HAJT5DA84C953,SAT83H9863DKJ97C4|sv|b|nt|ahh: waiting for the next move 1 vof problems in this event is that it is a pairs movement|pg|| nt|poohbear: next rosenblum is 2006|pg|| mb|2D|an| |mb|p|nt|ahh: another big n/s hand|pg|| nt|poohbear: and another suit vs nt choice|pg|| nt|tsanders: Who is the best player in the world? Who knows. There are maybe 8 or 10 best pairs in the world.|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|poohbear: 6nt will make cause hearts are 3-3 |pg|| nt|poohbear: and everything needs the spade finesse|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: prefer to be in @S|pg|| mb|p|pc|c4|nt|poohbear: another chance for Weichsel|pg|| nt|ahh: will he reevaluate now he has fit|pg|| nt|poohbear: his hand is much better now . having aces . dbltn heart instead of dbltn @d might have been better|pg|| nt|tsanders: think he should take a bid|pg|| nt|tsanders: too many controls|pg|| nt|poohbear: 5 spades quantitative|pg|| nt|ahh: whatever he does he will take his time|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahh: south will hope @S finesse loses|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d3|pc|sQ|nt|poohbear: Peter makes his choice and he is on at best a spade finesse so he is correct|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|nt|poohbear: oh well|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|s5|nt|poohbear: fast claim|pg|| nt|poohbear: well maybe not fast as there can be a squeeze for 13 tricks|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|h9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SKJ9762H42D2CAJ82,SHKQ7DQT653CKQT76,SQ54HAJT5DA84C953,SAT83H9863DKJ97C4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|3S|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|d6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SAKJ97HQT5DQ75CJ6,S8HJ876432DJ82CT2,SQT6543HKDA963C83,S2HA9DKT4CAKQ9754|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2D|an| |mb|d|nt|ahh: problem for south|pg|| mb|2H|an| |nt|poohbear: we are not getting to hearts now|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3C|nt|poohbear: 5h makes but 5 cl has a trump loser|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 4spades might have made assuming declarer can set up a club trick|pg|| mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|ahh: x or 5@C ? by south |pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ahh: easy def for east|pg|| nt|vugraph9: first break -- back in 10 minutes|pg|| nt|ahh: more italians coming|pg|| nt|tsanders: too bad, I spent a lovely day with him in Napoli about 12 years ago|pg|| nt|poohbear: a note on the change in qualification for the final day of the Reisenger, Why are we going to 14 teams. It shortens the event. making the 3rd day is not nearly as prestigious. AND ...|pg|| nt|poohbear: most important is that each team only plays the others 4 boards in stead of 6|pg|| nt|poohbear: If it AINT BROKE dont fix it|pg|| nt|tsanders: most of the best players in the world are playing in this tournament. Only flaw is lack of comparisons|pg|| nt|poohbear: and it is said to see the ACBL trying to ruin an exciting event and for what??? to save some time??|pg|| nt|ahh: this type of scoring is rarely used in europe i would love to see it used more very exciting format|pg|| nt|tsanders: was the only team game, other than KO, before Swiss|pg|| nt|poohbear: thought it was total points Tommy|pg|| nt|tsanders: I'm not that old|pg|| nt|poohbear: :)))|pg|| nt|tsanders: I think total points died out in the late 40's|pg|| nt|poohbear: I dont remember:)|pg|| nt|ahh: still played in some areas|pg|| nt|ahh: team of 8 scoring often uses total points|pg|| nt|tsanders: the 1st few of Bermuda Bowls were total points. Imps came in about 1962|pg|| nt|tsanders: it took awhile to perfect the imp scale|pg|| nt|ahh: for late comers we are waiting for next move 2 board rounds are being played |pg|| nt|poohbear: now if only they can get the victory point scale correct:)|pg|| nt|tsanders: and Edgar Kaplan had a lot to do with it|pg|| nt|tsanders: Many experts consider board-a-match the most exacting form of the game. Equal weight is accorded each deal and every trick is important when scoring is board-by-board. Scoring is 1 ...|pg|| nt|tsanders: point for winning the board, 1/2 point for a tie, and 0 for losing it.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h9|pc|cJ|pc|h3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SAKJ97HQT5DQ75CJ6,S8HJ876432DJ82CT2,SQT6543HKDA963C83,S2HA9DKT4CAKQ9754|sv|o|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|an| |mb|p|mb|3C|an| |mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|vugraph7: Sorry about that. We're back --- 2 board rounds|pg|| nt|tsanders: Assume we will be with Greco/Hampson this session. They were the leaders beginning today|pg|| nt|kareno: Tomorrow we are likely to have three board rounds.|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h6|pc|s3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S3HQ5DKT9652CAT85,SAT965HK6DA83C976,SKQJ2HAJ983DJ4CK3,S874HT742DQ7CQJ42|sv|e|nt|poohbear: how bout a halftime update?|pg|| nt|ahh: here we go|pg|| nt|poohbear: more Italians:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: also reigning world champs|pg|| nt|poohbear: playing on the orourke team|pg|| nt|ahh: great players|pg|| nt|tsanders: and another of the leading pairs in the world|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Brachmanteam was up in front with 19 followed by Cayne team at 17.83|pg|| nt|ahh: Bocchi could have been a basketball star|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Nickell and Wellend followed closely at 17.17 and 17.16 respectively|pg|| nt|tsanders: Does he still have on his canary yellow pants?|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Meltzer then Lev then Sanborn then O'Rourke|pg|| nt|poohbear: thanks|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Yes!!|pg|| nt|poohbear: lol|pg|| nt|vugraph9: big conversation re defenses to each others systems|pg|| nt|vugraph9: here we go|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|poohbear: possible 4h here?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|dinos1: emu 25, mozhet 26|pg|| nt|tsanders: 1NT is Sandwich NT|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|tsanders: unusual for unbid suits|pg|| nt|ahh: this will be other 2 suits more distribution than x |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|nt|tsanders: maybe he should have doubled|pg|| pc|cK|nt|tsanders: S underbid 1st time, now has to make up, somehow, but didn't|pg|| nt|poohbear: this can be beat 2 tricks. defense can take 2h 2sp and 1 of each|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sK|nt|poohbear: now a possible endplay may lead to down 1|pg|| pc|s7|nt|ahh: hard to see what par should be on this board|pg|| pc|s3|nt|poohbear: 4h making 4|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|h6|nt|tsanders: NS has lost this board on the bidding in all probability|pg|| nt|ahh: :) never going to get there|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|hQ|nt|poohbear: needed to lead Queen of hearts|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|c8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S3HQ5DKT9652CAT85,SAT965HK6DA83C976,SKQJ2HAJ983DJ4CK3,S874HT742DQ7CQJ42|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|kareno: By the time you reach the semifinals of the Reisinger event, there are very few 'weak' teams remaining.|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: So Hampson and Greco will be facing Murderer's Row :)|pg|| nt|tsanders: Greco/Hampson, a young pair, have developed a very fine partnership, patterned after the pair they are playing, who need no introduction|pg|| nt|vugraph7: lots of kibitzers at the table|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|nt|kareno: This lead allows east to ruff his diamond losers and he will attempt to discard a club but that should be ruffed and he will make 5.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c5|nt|kareno: There is really no choice of plays.|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|c8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|d2|nt|tsanders: appeared initially a trump lead would set E, but he still would make 6@h, 3@s, 1@d and 1 @d ruff for 11|pg|| nt|kareno: Since south luckily (for declarer) holds only one trump.|pg|| nt|tsanders: did he make 6?|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|d5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKT7H852DKJ752C73,SA32HAK7DQ63CQ986,SQJ86HJ94DA98CKT2,S954HQT63DT4CAJ54|sv|b|mb|p|nt|poohbear: even if North had shifted to a spade , dummy's spade spots would prevail|pg|| nt|ahh: that is a big bd for e/w|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: big @C from north|pg|| mb|p|pc|s6|nt|poohbear: strong club neg @d|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|nt|tsanders: 4@s like;y|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|c6|nt|poohbear: for Bocchi . Red suit bad . black suit good|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahh: warned off @H lead|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| nt|tsanders: interesting play in 4@s with trump lead, must rise K|pg|| nt|vugraph9: they just discussed last hand -- went down 1 trick|pg|| nt|poohbear: nobody will accuse Sontag Weichsel of overbidding this set:))|pg|| nt|vugraph9: will be changed |pg|| nt|tsanders: they seem to be a little off|pg|| nt|ahh: think if it is italians at other table they will be in 4|pg|| nt|tsanders: predict N will play @s K|pg|| nt|poohbear: I concur|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d8|nt|ahh: i think south is to blame for not bidding 4 over 3@S|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|poohbear: now wont be made|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|d5|nt|ahh: not unreasonable line |pg|| nt|poohbear: very reasonable line in fact|pg|| nt|vugraph9: fast and furious|pg|| nt|poohbear: making 3 is my prediction|pg|| nt|ahh: coke to barry |pg|| nt|poohbear: that will take the edge off the coffee:)|pg|| nt|tsanders: BTW, I got 7 different answers for best player in the world, and no repeats|pg|| nt|poohbear: i got the 8th:) Fallenius:)|pg|| nt|tsanders: proves best pair is more important|pg|| nt|ahh: give us the list in no particular order |pg|| nt|poohbear: meckstroth rodwell rosenberg Zia versace pzscola|pg|| nt|ahh: chagas helgamo zia hamman meckstroth soloway lots of italians|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h3|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s8|mc|6|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKT7H852DKJ752C73,SA32HAK7DQ63CQ986,SQJ86HJ94DA98CKT2,S954HQT63DT4CAJ54|sv|b|nt|kareno: He made only 5.|pg|| nt|kareno: Lost one club and one ruff.|pg|| nt|tsanders: operator, scored 9 incorectly|pg|| nt|vugraph7: sorry --- there was a water knocked over at the table, had to deal with that first. :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|kareno: It appears to have been a push board.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kareno: Does the other room have Brachman's E/W pair playing throughout?|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|tsanders: only 4 I think|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|vugraph7: these guys flip the cards fast :( |pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|nt|tsanders: appears to be 2 off|pg|| nt|kareno: As I understand it, the running score has no meaning because there is no live comparison with Brachman's e/w pair.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: not entirely true --- I'm being brought comparisons from the Brachman EW pair|pg|| nt|tsanders: really, wonder why?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the two tables being broadcast aren't linked|pg|| nt|kareno: Ahhh.. so we are actually seeing Brachman's results board by board. Wonderful for our viewers.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: as for why, my guess is that it's because having a stationary EW pair causes some disruption|pg|| nt|tsanders: BBO always figures out a way|pg|| nt|tsanders: Hard to compare at BAM. Incidentally BAM=board-a-match|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, they would have to rearrange the movement for us. They are very cooperative letting us watch live as it is!|pg|| nt|vugraph7: still pondering|pg|| nt|tsanders: Many experts consider board-a-match the most exacting form of the game. Equal weight is accorded each deal and every trick is important when scoring is board-by-board. Scoring is 1 ...|pg|| nt|tsanders: point for winning the board, 1/2 point for a tie, and 0 for losing it.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the Brachman team was in the lead after the first day, with a 4 board carryover|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s3|pc|d8|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SK94HQ72DJ76CAT65,SQ6HKJ65DAQ532CJ7,SJT73HAT983DK84C8,SA852H4DT9CKQ9432|sv|o|nt|ahh: apologies to the poles i cant spell their names|pg|| nt|poohbear: all time??? forget it . too tuff|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2C|nt|poohbear: as is mentioned the best player is the one who comes in second in everyones list:))|pg|| nt|tsanders: Chiaradia (deceased), Reese(deceased), Hamman, dick Freeman, Helgemo, Zia, 3 or 4 of the present Italians|pg|| mb|2H|an| |mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ahh: well if we go back belladonna garrozo forquet |pg|| nt|tsanders: EW are 2 world class Polish players|pg|| nt|poohbear: How bout Tim Seres . arguably the greatest card player ever|pg|| nt|poohbear: IN THE MEANTIME:)|pg|| nt|ahh: jean besse |pg|| nt|poohbear: 2nt forced 3c|pg|| nt|tsanders: And the beat goes on.................|pg|| mb|p|nt|tsanders: getting more and more, sorry can't acknowledge you all, but thanks|pg|| nt|poohbear: down 1 off the top. even if the spade ace was onside|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahh: 1 story about nameless american player giving evidence in court case asked who was best player in world said he was himself when asked later why he said that replied he had ...|pg|| nt|ahh: to cos he was on oath :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|poohbear: but most likely declarer will duck the spade|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|poohbear: no advantage to rising King|pg|| nt|tsanders: that could any of 100 player I know :)))))|pg|| nt|ahh: :)|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c2|nt|poohbear: spade guess coming|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d4|pc|cK|nt|poohbear: declarer may or may not get this right|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahh: good def so far|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|h2|nt|ahh: well done dec|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s5|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| mc|4|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SK94HQ72DJ76CAT65,SQ6HKJ65DAQ532CJ7,SJT73HAT983DK84C8,SA852H4DT9CKQ9432|sv|o|nt|kareno: You've spelled them correctly :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|tsanders: Am asked if I know Wold/Passell. Yes indeed. They ahve been around for some time and are world class players, Both reside in Texas|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|an| |nt|vugraph7: sorry -- East passed in tempo|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|tsanders: Willenken resides in NY. Polowan seems to be everywhere but calls NY his home as well|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Greco was the one thinking|pg|| nt|kareno: Dangerous balance into a likely misfit.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|kareno: Polowan's hand is just too weak to double. Anyone on the panel double with the four-card holding?|pg|| nt|kareno: It would be a mistake :)|pg|| nt|tsanders: too weak, besides N may be making|pg|| pc|sK|nt|tsanders: Is Willenken an AMEX options trader Karen?|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|nt|kareno: Excellent shift by Willenken.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kareno: I think he is - but remember - I left the Amex quite a few years ago and I left New York early in 2001.|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c2|nt|kareno: The redouble by Chris Willenken has placed the majority of the high cards with west.|pg|| nt|aconterno: good play so far|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|h3|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SHT93DAKJT86CKJT2,SK98653HQD74CQ874,SJT4HK876542DC963,SAQ72HAJDQ9532CA5|sv|n|mb|2D|an| |nt|ahh: lucky 3nt by west |pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|poohbear: with a ruff NS are down 2 in 4 hearts|pg|| nt|poohbear: but even without the ruff declarer likely to misguess hearts|pg|| nt|tsanders: not the time to bid 4@h by S|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: tr lead best|pg|| pc|c3|nt|poohbear: interesting defense to 3nt. can North avoid an endplay?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ahh: told that 3@H should have asked for stopper|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahh: or its mini splinter or strong showing @C take your pick :)|pg|| nt|ahh: looks like it was taken as mini splinter :)|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|h2|pc|d2|pg|| nt|poohbear: if declarer guesses correctly 3nt can make an overtrick|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|h4|pc|d3|pg|| nt|poohbear: since neither defender can come down to a singleton club|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|nt|ahh: hoping for tr 2-2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SHT93DAKJT86CKJT2,SK98653HQD74CQ874,SJT4HK876542DC963,SAQ72HAJDQ9532CA5|sv|n|nt|kareno: Interesting play in clubs. The common wisdom is that the player who doesn't cover an honor hasn't got it. Still declarer could have been open to a ruff in that suit.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|aconterno: a misfit hand here|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|kareno: Note the expert bid of 1@h by north. First overcall, then double later with a good suit and values. That's the modern practice and I think it's best.|pg|| nt|tsanders: 4@s still in the picture|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|aconterno: Dbl was 4 or 5 @s|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|kareno: I tend to devalue a 4-4-4-1 or 5-4-4 hand. They just don't play as well as their high cards indicate.|pg|| nt|kareno: Lively pass by Greco of 1NT doubled. I think that was a takeout double.|pg|| pc|c5|nt|vugraph7: it was -- and he explained it to chris as such|pg|| nt|kareno: Greco's diamonds are spotless.|pg|| nt|tsanders: This is the Semi finals of the Reisinger. There arre still 26 team left to play today, which will probably be 2 boards vs each team.|pg|| nt|aconterno: but the double over 1nt after bidding 1@h is with @s and @c´s|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|nt|kareno: Yes, and south would have done well to bid spades. |pg|| nt|tsanders: They will cut the field for the finals to probably 11 teams|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|nt|tsanders: That will be held tomorrow and seen right here on BBO|pg|| nt|kareno: The late, great Edgar Kaplan remarked often that you do best to take out partner's takeout doubles and leave in his penalty doubles.|pg|| nt|kareno: Declarer doing well to get trumps out. He knows diamonds are held on his right and will play through south in that suit.|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|d3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SKTHKQ9862DKJ6CJ8,SAQ74HJDA7CA97542,SJ9632HT3DQT54C63,S85HA754D9832CKQT|sv|b|nt|tsanders: Willenken resides in NY, Polowan as well, but is a man of the world|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: check thast|pg|| nt|ahh: lucky him :0|pg|| nt|poohbear: pass by weichsel|pg|| nt|poohbear: We need to fix the auction please|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|poohbear: ty:)|pg|| nt|ahh: 4@H for e/w beaten on ruff|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahh: if it can be found|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|poohbear: ace of spades lead and deuce by pard|pg|| mb|3N|nt|poohbear: but even that might be a prob|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: needs to underlead @C ace|pg|| nt|tsanders: let's see if NS can change their fortune tonight|pg|| nt|poohbear: and is it clear to play the King?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: tough will cheer if they find it|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahh: east will be worried ruff other way|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|nt|ahh: hard to find def |pg|| nt|poohbear: also very dangerous|pg|| nt|ahh: north may be showing singleton @C|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SKTHKQ9862DKJ6CJ8,SAQ74HJDA7CA97542,SJ9632HT3DQT54C63,S85HA754D9832CKQT|sv|b|mb|p|nt|tsanders: new opponents, but not posted yet|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|aconterno: good spot despite the 4-1 in @h|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kareno: As long as east plays a low heart the first time he leads them.|pg|| nt|tsanders: 3 rounds of @ds is best, gives defense a chance|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s4|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| nt|kareno: True but it's a very hard play to make.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: it takes me a minute to look up the names --- I don't know _all_ of the players here. :)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: (plus I'm not very good with spelling) :)|pg|| nt|kareno: I think the viewgraph operators have been doing a sensational job!!|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|nt|aconterno: there it is the 3rd round of @d|pg|| nt|kareno: There - now we'll see it with a sluff-ruff presented by Eric Greco.|pg|| nt|tsanders: Mossop resides in Switzerland; Rees in England|pg|| nt|aconterno: discard a @c|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|kareno: The Kibitzers agree with my praise for the Viewgraph operators .. |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| nt|vugraph7: ty =)|pg|| nt|kareno: Strong duck by north. Declarer should not be fooled after the weak jump by south.|pg|| nt|tsanders: BAM is very tough on operators since new opponents coming every 2 boards. Agree on good job|pg|| nt|vugraph7: time for the first hospitality break has been added to the clock this round|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SKJ32HJ97DA9CKT53,SQ9HAQ53DQJT863CA,S85HKT86DK72C9874,SAT764H42D54CQJ62|sv|o|nt|poohbear: that is less likely|pg|| nt|ahh: i have sympathy for them when overtricks matter|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: at imps may risk underlead |pg|| nt|vugraph9: and the screen slams down with a bang by weichsel|pg|| nt|poohbear: LOL|pg|| mb|1N|an| |mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahh: well weischel thought it was an easy defence :)|pg|| pc|s8|nt|poohbear: ive played as Peters partner so I have seen exactly what he is feeling:)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| nt|tsanders: 3Nt had a chance in the W|pg|| nt|ahh: what a lead problem|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ahh: hate every suit|pg|| nt|poohbear: that lead will cost nothing unless declarer decides to ruff a spade instead of finessing in trump|pg|| pc|h9|nt|ahh: so he fumes about hand before then has that problem guess he hates the game right now|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|poohbear: heart play and a trump back|pg|| nt|poohbear: declarer has done well to play @d first since it forces the defense to play trumps for him|pg|| pc|dA|nt|tsanders: N knows W has @h shortness, no support of wk2|pg|| nt|tsanders: and S should know it as well|pg|| nt|poohbear: also spade and @d counts should be known at this point|pg|| nt|poohbear: slight risk that declarer is void in hearts|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|nt|poohbear: perfect play by both sides so far|pg|| nt|ahh: needs to get this right|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| nt|tsanders: only a small @s give W the contract now|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|poohbear: this is ridiculouly slow. was much faster this afternoon|pg|| nt|poohbear: about 1/2 hour behind the pace|pg|| nt|poohbear: Thanks Jim good night:)|pg|| nt|tsanders: saying good night to Jim Hay, thx for your expert commentary|pg|| nt|ahh: sorry folks i have to go 3 a m for me hope you enjoy the rest with barry and tom |pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sJ|mc|7|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SKJ32HJ97DA9CKT53,SQ9HAQ53DQJT863CA,S85HKT86DK72C9874,SAT764H42D54CQJ62|sv|o|nt|kareno: The club pitch by north made this play easy for east. Had he held his clubs, east would have had to guess well.|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: BAM is the ultimate form of Matchpoint scoring. |pg|| mb|1C|nt|kareno: It is most important not to step out and put boards at risk.. most often they will be won or lost on better defense/declarer play.|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|kareno: What you most want to do is to present the same problem to declarer that your teammate is having to deal with at the other table.|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|tsanders: 2NT may be the equivelent of Drury|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I -think- 2NT was explained as "limit raise to 3@S or better"|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: 2NT is??|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I can't always hear their whispers clearly though|pg|| nt|kareno: On board 13, Passell/wold made 4@h, impressive!|pg|| nt|tsanders: possible to over reach|pg|| mb|p|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| nt|kareno: I think you could say that BAM is matchpoint to the Nth degree :) Remember there's only one comparison.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|kareno: If 2NT is Jacoby, then 3NT is probably some maximum hand perhaps without great @s length.|pg|| nt|kareno: And on this board, they stopped safely at 4@s, looking like two wins for Brachman.|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|kareno: You can click on Movie I believe and see the line in the other room.|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the two tables being broadcast aren't linked|pg|| nt|vugraph7: they'll be linked tonight (we hope) but for now we have two different NS pairs (2 teams)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d8|nt|kareno: I suspect west expected more from east's raise.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|tsanders: hit 'next' under the hand in the movie and you can see how the hand was played in other room|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAT4H854DJ93CT862,S9H9DAK87CAKQJ543,SKQJ87HKQT76DQ2C9,S6532HAJ32DT654C7|sv|n|nt|ahh: see you tomorrow |pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|poohbear: we will each talk 50 percent more to compensate:)|pg|| mb|2C|an| |nt|tsanders: 2 English chaps heere now. D Burn is a regular commentator with us here on BBO|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 3@d has achance if declarer guesses the club Jack|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| nt|poohbear: heart finesse really had no downside since if it lost declarer could pitch spades away|pg|| pc|d4|nt|tsanders: or plays @d K 1st|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|d5|nt|poohbear: 6 of @d kills that Tommy|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|cA|nt|tsanders: getting tired Pooh, dummy had 7|pg|| nt|poohbear: and when the spade shift comes?:)|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|poohbear: uppercut:)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h6|pc|s2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|poohbear: not that tired:)|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|cT|pg|| nt|poohbear: ! now|pg|| nt|poohbear: @d|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAT4H854DJ93CT862,S9H9DAK87CAKQJ543,SKQJ87HKQT76DQ2C9,S6532HAJ32DT654C7|sv|n|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: >>>>> Board 15|pg|| mb|3C|nt|tsanders: Bizon/Kniecien both reside in Poland|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Bizon and Kwiecien's teammates are Pszczola and Lev|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: A double here works well.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: their team was tied for 9/10|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|tsanders: and are playing 4-handed with Sam Lev, originally from Poland|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|kareno: West would have to play out of his hand. South lets west off the hook.|pg|| nt|kareno: Not that it is easy to pass for penalties by south. |pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|vugraph7: upsidedown carding for EW|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| nt|tsanders: S knows where the minor suit Ks should be, but has some management to do|pg|| nt|tsanders: notice he saved a @c entry to dummy, just in case|pg|| nt|vugraph7: there's a little table talk... 1nt = 14-16, so the defense knows south is limited to 13 hcp if balanced|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|nt|tsanders: he knows E is out of @ss as well|pg|| nt|tsanders: what does he do with all that information?|pg|| nt|poohbear: hi all|pg|| nt|vugraph7: aside from thinking for a long time? =)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Barry Goren from USA|pg|| nt|kareno: Hi Barry :)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: hello|pg|| nt|poohbear: hi karen hi tommy|pg|| nt|tsanders: Hi Barry|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|tsanders: the running score at upper left is meaningless|pg|| nt|kareno: I thought we were getting actual comparisons?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the brachman carryover is 4 boards, but for whatever reason it's only showing up as 2 (I think)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the comparisons *are* correct, but the brachman score is off by 2|pg|| nt|kareno: That was the carryover or their lead after the day?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I was told that the assigned carryover was 4 boards |pg|| nt|vugraph7: (they won yesterday by 4.5 boards)|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c4|mc|11|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQ863H643D95CKQT3,ST9HQ52DKQ3CJ9852,SKJ54HKTDJT86CA64,SA72HAJ987DA742C7|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|an| |mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tsanders: this looks like an Acol auction|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|poohbear: burns heart suit meets the Hamman criteria . to open 4 card heart suit must be headed by at least the 6|pg|| nt|tsanders: Even Barry Crane wouldn't let me open that @h suit|pg|| nt|poohbear: here he has the 9 |pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: surpsing play bt east|pg|| nt|poohbear: Declarer knows that East has a high @d as well so he might well drop the K of clubs|pg|| nt|poohbear: with AK of @d west might have led those:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: didnt do it|pg|| nt|tsanders: start tomorrow is 12:00 pm New York, 18:00 Paris, 5:00 pm London|pg|| nt|poohbear: shoul;d have made 5|pg|| nt|poohbear: sorry he did|pg|| nt|poohbear: made 5|pg|| nt|poohbear: tired here;)|pg|| nt|tsanders: husband/wife, Kerry and Steve Sanborn reside near NY|pg|| nt|tsanders: Kerrie has won numerous world championships. One with Barry Crane in fact.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Steve is an ex partner of mine . we played alot in NY in the early 80s|pg|| nt|poohbear: very nice guy|pg|| nt|poohbear: and a good player|pg|| nt|poohbear: were these 2 on the reisenger team that won in 1990 . with 3 couples? I know blanchards and Margie gwozdzinsky and glen eisenstein were on it for sure|pg|| nt|poohbear: Jill Blanchard has since become Jill Levin|pg|| nt|poohbear: thats right. Kerri played with Jon Greenspan|pg|| nt|csimon: hi Tommy and Barry and specs|pg|| nt|poohbear: Hi Carol. Welcome to Carol Simon . Former world champion|pg|| nt|csimon: I think I arrived right in time for the hospitality break|pg|| nt|tsanders: hi carol, welc|pg|| nt|poohbear: we now have some results on the movie|pg|| nt|tsanders: 1989 |pg|| nt|poohbear: oh yea played the trials in 1990:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: thats why it was on my mind|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SQ863H643D95CKQT3,ST9HQ52DKQ3CJ9852,SKJ54HKTDJT86CA64,SA72HAJ987DA742C7|sv|e|nt|tsanders: he had a strip sqz without the favorable @d switch|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Looks like another 3NT unless e/w get frisky.|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|poohbear: we will see if NS can penalize|pg|| nt|kareno: If they have a major-suited two bid, then they'd better pick spades!!|pg|| nt|tsanders: if EW get too frisky with 19 major cards, it might be bloody|pg|| mb|d|mb|2H|nt|tsanders: 10, not 19|pg|| mb|2S|nt|kareno: Does Kwiecien feel the hot breath on his shoulder and can he run?|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|kareno: I believe 2@h showed a two-suited hand including hearts.|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph7: I put the alert in:|pg|| nt|vugraph7: weak with 5@H and any other suit|pg|| mb|p|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|vugraph7: (if a bid gets alerted, I try to type in the explanation if I can make it out)|pg|| nt|kareno: That's a much better spot than 2@h was because of the suit breaks.|pg|| nt|tsanders: east hoping other suit was a minor|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|poohbear: declarer goal is to take 7 tricks on this hand|pg|| nt|vugraph7: the round was just called --- going to be behind again|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s9|nt|kareno: He has to try to keep the penalty below game - 500 will be a probable loss.|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|nt|poohbear: he does have 3 spades at least 1 heart and 2 well placed minor suit kings |pg|| nt|kareno: North knows south can ruff the next low heart and take out the dummy's trump.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|kareno: N/S have just enough to get 500.|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|h5|nt|kareno: Easy defense. Good outcome for N/S.|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d3|nt|poohbear: and a board not likely to be duplicated cause North will probably open 1 heart at the other table|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|nt|kareno: This result came about because of e/w's defensive bidding methods.|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|kareno: Best not underlead the diamond or the good result will be lost!|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| nt|poohbear: Well Bizon caught a totally worthless dummy and is still taking 6 tricks|pg|| mc|11|pg||